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MNPS 50N50W 09-19-2018 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2677273)
Well considering the blackhawks were on board when one of the acft had RTO in ORD after ingesting parts from a JAL 777 on the runway. It happens..... but that was not on their account. A lot of their happenings have been pilot induced.

So..... if you try to build a skyscraper, but refuse to pay for a steel foundation, don’t you share most of the blame when it comes falling down.

Mexi...you got out in time

JAL 777 is external, all the rest if it is internal.

But then who would expect them to shoulder any blame.

This may sound familiar “ WE DIDN’T TELL HIM TO DO THAT “

The building is falling down, let’s hope we can get everyone out before someone DIES...

Demoman 09-23-2018 12:48 PM

Yep sounds like an operation ran by Boris , one of the biggest S.B in the industry , research his background , always leaves charred ground behind him .

TiredSoul 09-23-2018 06:17 PM

Boris van Liar, so you got out Mexi?

Shoeless 09-29-2018 01:08 PM

What I’m curious about is how do they keep pilots in this job market?

AU MD FLYER 09-30-2018 02:10 AM

Swift Air New Hire Bonuses...
 

Originally Posted by Shoeless (Post 2683067)
What I’m curious about is how do they keep pilots in this job market?

Well, maybe your "curiosity" is the grounds for the Swift Air New-Hire Bonus posted on a Sept. 25th APC update as shown below:

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Swift Air is Hiring!
$25,000 New Hire Bonus
$3,750 after OE ( or after 3 months, 6 months, 12 months)
$10,000 after 24 months
Bases are now in MIA, IWA and home based.
Acquiring 2 NGs and 4-400s from Xtra Airways and flying contracts.
3 737-400 from Alaska Airlines acquired
Adding seasonal flying in Europe from may to September.
767s retired
Airlineapps no longer available
Established 1997
This page was last updated on: September 25, 2018 (Quicktake, Fleet, Domiciles)

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Not sure, but it is possible that it should say "and" instead of "or"
in reference to the $3,750 bonuses? So, $3,750 after IOE... and then again after months 3, 6, and 12 following IOE would equal $15,000.

Then adding the $10,000 bonus (after 24 months) is the only way I could come up with the posted $25,000 new-hire bonus.

Oddly, not a peep from any job seekers or current Swift Air pilots regarding this recent development?

mexipilot84 09-30-2018 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER (Post 2683329)
Well, maybe your "curiosity" is the grounds for the Swift Air New-Hire Bonus posted on a Sept. 25th APC update as shown below:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Swift Air is Hiring!
$25,000 New Hire Bonus
$3,750 after OE ( or after 3 months, 6 months, 12 months)
$10,000 after 24 months
Bases are now in MIA, IWA and home based.
Acquiring 2 NGs and 4-400s from Xtra Airways and flying contracts.
3 737-400 from Alaska Airlines acquired
Adding seasonal flying in Europe from may to September.
767s retired
Airlineapps no longer available
Established 1997
This page was last updated on: September 25, 2018 (Quicktake, Fleet, Domiciles)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not sure, but it is possible that it should say "and" instead of "or"
in reference to the $3,750 bonuses? So, $3,750 after IOE... and then again after months 3, 6, and 12 following IOE would equal $15,000.

Then adding the $10,000 bonus (after 24 months) is the only way I could come up with the posted $25,000 new-hire bonus.

Oddly, not a peep from any job seekers or current Swift Air pilots regarding this recent development?



Really it’s a band aid to a hemorrhage, COO sent an email about it saying that the salary is “competitive” not sure to who. Make more at a regional as an FO. Some regionals are offering almost 40K in bonuses plus higher pay rates and better work rules. Told CP for a year its better to raise pay rates instead of a bonus that puts ya back to low at year 2 and beyond.

9E, RP and even now OO with their raises the difference on base pay is minimal to swift. Premium pay and benefits are better at the regionals. Unfortunately I think these guys have missed the train and at this rate and recruiting methods they’ll keep attracting more Miami mafia pilots and people that just harm the airline further.

So I don’t know, I can only hope they get their act together, they take one step forward and 2 steps back it seems.

On the bright side some pretty junior FOs have either got the job offer at southwest and/or interview. So happy to see good people moving up and out!

threeholeblower 10-05-2018 08:38 AM

Business 101 again. Bonus program: Hard money is just that, hard money, right now, TODAY! 24 months from now, half of your pilot group will have moved on, they get minimum. 24 months from now it is likely you will have a management change, be bought, sold, merged or outright shutdown, those who stay will get minimum also. The bonus program should be in reverse. $10000 right now. Smaller denominations as scheduled over the next 24 months. Otherwise “I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today”

mexipilot84 10-05-2018 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by threeholeblower (Post 2686478)
Business 101 again. Bonus program: Hard money is just that, hard money, right now, TODAY! 24 months from now, half of your pilot group will have moved on, they get minimum. 24 months from now it is likely you will have a management change, be bought, sold, merged or outright shutdown, those who stay will get minimum also. The bonus program should be in reverse. $10000 right now. Smaller denominations as scheduled over the next 24 months. Otherwise “I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today”



The funny thing is many are still trying to get paid for over time, wonder how long it’ll take for bonuses to be paid out.

TheWeatherman 10-06-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by PilotnotPirate (Post 2656607)
If they don’t speak up they’re crazy, ASAPs involve the FAA, if it is happening an ASAP report will end it immediately

As the pilots of Allegient found out, the FAA really isn't **** and doesn't have your back.

aviatorhi 10-07-2018 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2687283)
As the pilots of Allegient found out, the FAA really isn't **** and doesn't have your back.

Wait... they actually thought that? I'm not sure if that's sad or hilarious.


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