Swift Air - The truth
#781
So you mean your flying along and an indicator takes a crap, that’s not normal? I mean because even in my car crap breaks. Your saying we are flying around with a half working gauge and it’s not written up which is false. Things break my truck had a oil pressure sensor go out and a blown tire all in one week and I keep up with my stuff very well. Things break it happens if you think things don’t break at south west American Alaska and they don’t carry MEL your gladly mistaken my man
Keep in mind that Swift management's decision to buy old airplanes may have helped to get the company going, but the decision to not buy PARTS, EQUIPMENT, and hire good Mechanics to keep them flying will cause the company to fail. Look at DMI's for instance. They will stay on the books until the last hour, then functional check normal. Next flight it's written up again, and it goes for the next time period.
I have been told by our MX, we don't have enough people, parts, or equipment to do our jobs. Can't continue this way and expect to remain in business for the long term.
#782
With the latest mishap, it looks like there are currently 5 aircraft out of service for the long term . Engines cooked, landing gear cracks, C check, 801 in the scrap heap, a big hole in the vertical stab on 441.
Mexi...what are they telling you. Haven't heard from you in a while. Or have you finally given up on this place.
Mexi...what are they telling you. Haven't heard from you in a while. Or have you finally given up on this place.
#783
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 233
I could only remind our Captains. If it breaks, write it up. DON'T blindside the next Crew.
Keep in mind that Swift management's decision to buy old airplanes may have helped to get the company going, but the decision to not buy PARTS, EQUIPMENT, and hire good Mechanics to keep them flying will cause the company to fail. Look at DMI's for instance. They will stay on the books until the last hour, then functional check normal. Next flight it's written up again, and it goes for the next time period.
I have been told by our MX, we don't have enough people, parts, or equipment to do our jobs. Can't continue this way and expect to remain in business for the long term.
Keep in mind that Swift management's decision to buy old airplanes may have helped to get the company going, but the decision to not buy PARTS, EQUIPMENT, and hire good Mechanics to keep them flying will cause the company to fail. Look at DMI's for instance. They will stay on the books until the last hour, then functional check normal. Next flight it's written up again, and it goes for the next time period.
I have been told by our MX, we don't have enough people, parts, or equipment to do our jobs. Can't continue this way and expect to remain in business for the long term.
#784
With the latest mishap, it looks like there are currently 5 aircraft out of service for the long term . Engines cooked, landing gear cracks, C check, 801 in the scrap heap, a big hole in the vertical stab on 441.
Mexi...what are they telling you. Haven't heard from you in a while. Or have you finally given up on this place.
Mexi...what are they telling you. Haven't heard from you in a while. Or have you finally given up on this place.
Now add to that mix your new parent company makes you use one of the worst maintenance company’s in the country to keep those old worn out planes in the air.
Five planes out of service?
Shocker!
#785
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 302
Then you need to edit your post. Two incidents you squeeze into one thereby laying incorrect blame
#786
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 302
So you mean your flying along and an indicator takes a crap, that’s not normal? I mean because even in my car crap breaks. Your saying we are flying around with a half working gauge and it’s not written up which is false. Things break my truck had a oil pressure sensor go out and a blown tire all in one week and I keep up with my stuff very well. Things break it happens if you think things don’t break at south west American Alaska and they don’t carry MEL your gladly mistaken my man
South West, Alaska, and American also only utilize about HALF of the MEL's the manufacturer allows them, whereas Swift uses them all, and will extend them. No other real operator will dispatch a bird with anti skid inop on a revenue leg. With out a complete management flush COO down) nothing will change
#787
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: B777/CA retired
Posts: 1,481
If Im flying along and an indicator goes off. I pull out the MEL. I cant verify the indicator is faulty without mechanical verification.
If the overspeed light goes off, I do the memory items. I dont assume the indicator is faulty.
Thats industry standard. You cant in good faith assume just because your flying a POS thats out of its useful prime that its the indicators that are faulty. If I'm flying a brand new 737 off the factory line MAYBE Id be inclined to believe an indication is at fault. But in a steam gauge aircraft with no supporting indication provided by an EICAS I dont have reasonable faith in an overworked-under maintained aircraft that was taken out of the desert, and brought up to bare minima specification.
Your truck isnt on a maintenance program and as you mentioned before with the supporting witness of other posters here, THESE ARE RECURRING EVENTS.
Keep going.
If the overspeed light goes off, I do the memory items. I dont assume the indicator is faulty.
Thats industry standard. You cant in good faith assume just because your flying a POS thats out of its useful prime that its the indicators that are faulty. If I'm flying a brand new 737 off the factory line MAYBE Id be inclined to believe an indication is at fault. But in a steam gauge aircraft with no supporting indication provided by an EICAS I dont have reasonable faith in an overworked-under maintained aircraft that was taken out of the desert, and brought up to bare minima specification.
Your truck isnt on a maintenance program and as you mentioned before with the supporting witness of other posters here, THESE ARE RECURRING EVENTS.
Keep going.
At every airline I have worked for, including some nonscheduled freight carriers, if an item has been written up for the same fault more than a couple of times it is determined that it has a “history” and the plane is grounded until the part has been replaced
#788
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,886
MELs are a dispatch function. Once you are off the gate you go by the QRH and the checklist. Do not use the MEL as guidance once you have pushed.
At every airline I have worked for, including some nonscheduled freight carriers, if an item has been written up for the same fault more than a couple of times it is determined that it has a “history” and the plane is grounded until the part has been replaced
At every airline I have worked for, including some nonscheduled freight carriers, if an item has been written up for the same fault more than a couple of times it is determined that it has a “history” and the plane is grounded until the part has been replaced
Taking photos of write ups isn’t a bad idea either.
Last edited by captjns; 11-02-2019 at 02:11 AM.
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