Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > >
Charter Part 121 pax charter airlines
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-30-2018, 07:19 AM   #41  
On Reserve
 
Venkman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Position: Thank you sir, may I have another? (Corporate 91)
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by friend View Post
Do u need a atp for sun county
Will they pay for your atp like the regionals are doing. There will come a time very soon that sun country will not be able to find pilots will have to follow the regionals footstep of offering to pay for ATP any thoughts on this
They're still more like a Major/LCC than a Regional. All it's going to take is sweetening the contract a bit (which is up pretty soon), and they'll be back on the main stage. I believe they're next up to bat after Frontier. That will happen long before they get desperate enough to do ATP CTP programs or whatever.
Venkman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2018, 09:33 AM   #42  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 5
Default

I don't believe sunny is taking people without an ATP, we don't have the appropriate ground (written) training in place, not sure if we will get it.

With the "flow" programs with colleges, we may have to.

Our contract reaches its end Nov 2020, negotiations may start 6 months before then... or sooner if the company thinks they need to for bases, pay etc.

With a net "gain" of -1 airplanes from now through 2019, i doubt there will be any need for early negotiations. Upgrades are on hold until at least July 2019. Hiring for attrition only, we are the pipeline to SW.
tolipenalpria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2018, 10:15 AM   #43  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 27
Default Stay as a Capt at a regional vs Sun Country

Would anyone recommend leaving Envoy as a captain to go to Sun Country?
Amansworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2018, 12:52 PM   #44  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,214
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amansworld View Post
Would anyone recommend leaving Envoy as a captain to go to Sun Country?
Absolutely not.
Riverside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2018, 07:44 PM   #45  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Position: 737
Posts: 23
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amansworld View Post
Would anyone recommend leaving Envoy as a captain to go to Sun Country?
When’s your flow date to AA?
Highflyer35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2018, 08:05 AM   #46  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Highflyer35 View Post
When’s your flow date to AA?

Still about 4.5 years.
Amansworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2018, 08:29 AM   #47  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Position: 737
Posts: 23
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amansworld View Post
Still about 4.5 years.
But aren’t they telling new hires 3-4 years to flow?
Highflyer35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2018, 09:26 AM   #48  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 1,501
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Highflyer35 View Post
But aren’t they telling new hires 3-4 years to flow?
3-4 years into the decade after next maybe... recruiters conviently ignore those pesky details. I was promised a 5 year flow and it’s going to be between 8 and 9.

Piedmont’s “fastest” flow baseline is sitting at around 11 for new hires... recruiters are telling folks 3-5 years.
Otterbox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2018, 07:49 AM   #49  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 957
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amansworld View Post
Still about 4.5 years.
Kalitta, Omni, Western Global
Home based, no jumpseat to work, real tickets & you keep travel miles
No crashpads, ever
You keep most hotel points
Upgrades 2-4 years on heavy equipment
Livable wages right off the bat, make over $110k-$120k first year easilly.
KCM & CASS
Jumpseat Agreements with most carriers
12 year hourly pay at all three now equal to or better than at most legacies. The big shortcoming is no direct 14%-16% contribution, just company matches. 16-18 days a month, either in one chunk or two. Makes taking a month off easy by creative bidding without using a single vacation day.

Unless you’re going to live in base for a legacy, the few ACMI’s I just listed are a decent QOL, no commuting headaches or stress, and very decent pay. When you do apply to AA-UA-DL-UPS-FedEx it won’t be as one of the thousands of regional captains.... it will be as a heavy pilot with global experience.

Just food for thought. There are good and bad with every airline. At Envoy, it’s the abusive treatment by a management team that just doesn’t care.
Cujo665 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 

 
Reply

Tags
sun country
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Regional First Officer Pay Kprc1 Regional 81 02-25-2014 10:28 AM
Sun Country to Start London Service BenFluth216 Major 40 03-23-2010 12:03 PM
JO... regional airlines are safer than showers groovinaviator Regional 24 02-11-2008 04:34 PM
where would you go??? papacharlie Regional 39 01-27-2008 06:01 PM
recent news article about regional mins AFPirate Regional 6 11-26-2007 12:39 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:23 PM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2018, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1