Sun Country
#971
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 106
Maybe I should clarify. No commuter clause. Trips that start early and end late. Lots of turns (more in the winter). Inefficient multi day trips. Training can literally be placed anywhere in your 3 months to get it done meaning 1 day off 2 days of training 1 day off with uncommutable trips on either end. If you have a month to month carryover conflict the company can will give you one day off. If you want to be released on a front end dead head you will have to send multiple emails. If you’re on reserve you might break guarantee in March, that’s about it. You can ask scheduling to fly you but they won’t. Plan on commuting up for your 10 days off a month and flying 5 of those days. If you’re on reserve you can plan on flying a turn on your last day. No long call. I’m sure I’m missing more.
Catching flights up to MSP is the easy thing. The rest of commuting for SY is not.
Catching flights up to MSP is the easy thing. The rest of commuting for SY is not.
Question about the uniforms. Who's the supplier and is there any uniform allotment for new hires at all? Wondering if I should drop my current allotment on a couple fresh shirts at least
#972
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 83
M&H is the uniform supplier. You have to pay for uniforms so it would be best to use any residual allotment from your current employer to stock up. If you have a black blazer the gals at M&H will put gray stripes on for you pretty cheap if you need to change stripes. Save a few $$ on a blazer that way if yours is in good shape. Pants at M&H are pretty poor in my opinion. You will get a free tie, epaulets for your shirt and leather jacket if you have one. Also a Velcro wing patch for your leather jacket if you have one.
#973
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 106
M&H is the uniform supplier. You have to pay for uniforms so it would be best to use any residual allotment from your current employer to stock up. If you have a black blazer the gals at M&H will put gray stripes on for you pretty cheap if you need to change stripes. Save a few $$ on a blazer that way if yours is in good shape. Pants at M&H are pretty poor in my opinion. You will get a free tie, epaulets for your shirt and leather jacket if you have one. Also a Velcro wing patch for your leather jacket if you have one.
I do hate m&h anything. I've always just gotten my stuff from acutabove just because it fits better.
#975
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 10
Looking for advice - Commuting to Sun Country
Hi, folks,
I am looking for junior people at Sun Country to give me some advice.
I am very senior FO at a regional right now, and looking at Sun Country as career progression.
I am LNK-ORD commuter right now, and get average 17 days off per month with commutable trips. I need a showtime at 8:30am at the earliest (noon-1pm preferred) and trips that end by 7:30pm the latest to catch my flight home.
I got scared by talking to some people that say that Sun Country is just like Allegiant and you basically need to live on base to have any time at home at all. Is this true?
Some more questions:
- What percentage of trips is commutable as described earlier?
(back-end, front-end, both ends?)
- Is there paid hotel during training, and if not, how do other people handle this?
- How flexible is scheduling about personal drop of trips / reserve days?
- What percentage of commuters are at the company right now?
Given the commute above, how many days off at home should I expect?
- After 3 months?
- After 6 months?
- Year? 2 years?
Basically, I need to know if, after a year, I can have at least 14 days off at home, and make
around 50-60 hours per months pay with personal drops.
Thanks for all the advice.
I am looking for junior people at Sun Country to give me some advice.
I am very senior FO at a regional right now, and looking at Sun Country as career progression.
I am LNK-ORD commuter right now, and get average 17 days off per month with commutable trips. I need a showtime at 8:30am at the earliest (noon-1pm preferred) and trips that end by 7:30pm the latest to catch my flight home.
I got scared by talking to some people that say that Sun Country is just like Allegiant and you basically need to live on base to have any time at home at all. Is this true?
Some more questions:
- What percentage of trips is commutable as described earlier?
(back-end, front-end, both ends?)
- Is there paid hotel during training, and if not, how do other people handle this?
- How flexible is scheduling about personal drop of trips / reserve days?
- What percentage of commuters are at the company right now?
Given the commute above, how many days off at home should I expect?
- After 3 months?
- After 6 months?
- Year? 2 years?
Basically, I need to know if, after a year, I can have at least 14 days off at home, and make
around 50-60 hours per months pay with personal drops.
Thanks for all the advice.
#976
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 36
Hi, folks,
I am looking for junior people at Sun Country to give me some advice.
I am very senior FO at a regional right now, and looking at Sun Country as career progression.
I am LNK-ORD commuter right now, and get average 17 days off per month with commutable trips. I need a showtime at 8:30am at the earliest (noon-1pm preferred) and trips that end by 7:30pm the latest to catch my flight home.
I got scared by talking to some people that say that Sun Country is just like Allegiant and you basically need to live on base to have any time at home at all. Is this true?
Some more questions:
- What percentage of trips is commutable as described earlier?
(back-end, front-end, both ends?)
- Is there paid hotel during training, and if not, how do other people handle this?
- How flexible is scheduling about personal drop of trips / reserve days?
- What percentage of commuters are at the company right now?
Given the commute above, how many days off at home should I expect?
- After 3 months?
- After 6 months?
- Year? 2 years?
Basically, I need to know if, after a year, I can have at least 14 days off at home, and make
around 50-60 hours per months pay with personal drops.
Thanks for all the advice.
I am looking for junior people at Sun Country to give me some advice.
I am very senior FO at a regional right now, and looking at Sun Country as career progression.
I am LNK-ORD commuter right now, and get average 17 days off per month with commutable trips. I need a showtime at 8:30am at the earliest (noon-1pm preferred) and trips that end by 7:30pm the latest to catch my flight home.
I got scared by talking to some people that say that Sun Country is just like Allegiant and you basically need to live on base to have any time at home at all. Is this true?
Some more questions:
- What percentage of trips is commutable as described earlier?
(back-end, front-end, both ends?)
- Is there paid hotel during training, and if not, how do other people handle this?
- How flexible is scheduling about personal drop of trips / reserve days?
- What percentage of commuters are at the company right now?
Given the commute above, how many days off at home should I expect?
- After 3 months?
- After 6 months?
- Year? 2 years?
Basically, I need to know if, after a year, I can have at least 14 days off at home, and make
around 50-60 hours per months pay with personal drops.
Thanks for all the advice.
SCA is NOT a commuter friendly airline , there are only a hand full of commuters and they are senior pilots , SCA does not put you up in a hotel during training , you either buy yourself a hotel room at an average of 60-80 dollars per night ( or north of that ) or you rent a crash-pad , SCA does not fly you to the interview either .
With the schedule you have at your present job you got to be insane to come here if you are looking for QOL .
#977
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 10
But wouldn't that be true no matter where you go?
Especially if many if not all junior bases for other airlines are in NY which is totally uncomputable?
I know it's going to be bad in the beginning,
but I am looking out to 1+ year timeframe.
Basically, I want to move on out of the regionals,
and the choice right now is Sun Country or a 2-leg commute somewhere to the east coast.
Especially if many if not all junior bases for other airlines are in NY which is totally uncomputable?
I know it's going to be bad in the beginning,
but I am looking out to 1+ year timeframe.
Basically, I want to move on out of the regionals,
and the choice right now is Sun Country or a 2-leg commute somewhere to the east coast.
Don't get lazy and read the entire thread , you'll get answers to all of the questions you just asked .
SCA is NOT a commuter friendly airline , there are only a hand full of commuters and they are senior pilots , SCA does not put you up in a hotel during training , you either buy yourself a hotel room at an average of 60-80 dollars per night ( or north of that ) or you rent a crash-pad , SCA does not fly you to the interview either .
With the schedule you have at your present job you got to be insane to come here if you are looking for QOL .
SCA is NOT a commuter friendly airline , there are only a hand full of commuters and they are senior pilots , SCA does not put you up in a hotel during training , you either buy yourself a hotel room at an average of 60-80 dollars per night ( or north of that ) or you rent a crash-pad , SCA does not fly you to the interview either .
With the schedule you have at your present job you got to be insane to come here if you are looking for QOL .
#978
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 83
As a junior lineholder you will get around 14-15 days off. We have line bidding so you get stuck with a mix of multi-day trips and turns. Plan to commute a day before or after depending on when your show/release time is. I have a 3+ hour drive to MSP and find myself driving down the night before a trip or driving home in the wee hours of the morning quite often. Usually not on both ends. I am fortunate to have family that lives in MSP so I don't have to do the hotel/crashpad thing. We have a ridiculously archaic way of dealing with trip trades/drops/pickups/advertising. It does seem like a lot of advertised turns do get picked up by locals looking to make some extra money so you may be able to gain some extra time off if money isn't an object.
There's more pure multi-day lines for June with the HNL and DFW flying starting up. My hope is there will be more multi-day lines as we start service to new markets.
If you can get through the suck that is reserve then I think your goal of getting 14 days at home isn't completely unrealistic after being here for a year.
YMMV
There's more pure multi-day lines for June with the HNL and DFW flying starting up. My hope is there will be more multi-day lines as we start service to new markets.
If you can get through the suck that is reserve then I think your goal of getting 14 days at home isn't completely unrealistic after being here for a year.
YMMV
#979
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 10
Sounds good. Maybe it's time to make some friends with spare rooms in MSP then
Thank you
Thank you
As a junior lineholder you will get around 14-15 days off. We have line bidding so you get stuck with a mix of multi-day trips and turns. Plan to commute a day before or after depending on when your show/release time is. I have a 3+ hour drive to MSP and find myself driving down the night before a trip or driving home in the wee hours of the morning quite often. Usually not on both ends. I am fortunate to have family that lives in MSP so I don't have to do the hotel/crashpad thing. We have a ridiculously archaic way of dealing with trip trades/drops/pickups/advertising. It does seem like a lot of advertised turns do get picked up by locals looking to make some extra money so you may be able to gain some extra time off if money isn't an object.
There's more pure multi-day lines for June with the HNL and DFW flying starting up. My hope is there will be more multi-day lines as we start service to new markets.
If you can get through the suck that is reserve then I think your goal of getting 14 days at home isn't completely unrealistic after being here for a year.
YMMV
There's more pure multi-day lines for June with the HNL and DFW flying starting up. My hope is there will be more multi-day lines as we start service to new markets.
If you can get through the suck that is reserve then I think your goal of getting 14 days at home isn't completely unrealistic after being here for a year.
YMMV
#980
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 right
Posts: 285
But wouldn't that be true no matter where you go?
Especially if many if not all junior bases for other airlines are in NY which is totally uncomputable?
I know it's going to be bad in the beginning,
but I am looking out to 1+ year timeframe.
Basically, I want to move on out of the regionals,
and the choice right now is Sun Country or a 2-leg commute somewhere to the east coast.
Especially if many if not all junior bases for other airlines are in NY which is totally uncomputable?
I know it's going to be bad in the beginning,
but I am looking out to 1+ year timeframe.
Basically, I want to move on out of the regionals,
and the choice right now is Sun Country or a 2-leg commute somewhere to the east coast.
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