USA Jet questions
03-16-2018, 08:33 AM
#202
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Should prob be under the cargo section but no home basing I think it's 14 off per month now. Have a few friends there. Like it a lot. Make A real bit of money for flying car parts. Easy 6 figures first year as a .ca. seems like a really good gig honestly
03-16-2018, 10:15 AM
#204
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Originally Posted by KA350Driver
Would it be possible to do something like a 14 on 14 off schedule and commute?
03-19-2018, 05:41 AM
#205
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My understanding is that you can commute. However, you have to be something like 45 minutes from YIP during your on call days. I think quite a few pilots use crash pads while in YIP.
Disclaimer: I have never worked for USA jet but I do know the head of their recruiting quite well. It's not a bad place to be anymore.
Disclaimer: I have never worked for USA jet but I do know the head of their recruiting quite well. It's not a bad place to be anymore.
03-29-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
Should prob be under the cargo section but no home basing I think it's 14 off per month now. Have a few friends there. Like it a lot. Make A real bit of money for flying car parts. Easy 6 figures first year as a .ca. seems like a really good gig honestly
04-20-2018, 04:41 PM
#209
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I'm in my second year at USA Jet. My first year I spent the first 3 months in training, then worked a lot of overtime, made $98,000, and still averaged 9 days away from home per month, with 2 weeks off over Christmas and New Years. To be fair, there are a couple caveats: we were understaffed all last year, so there was lots of overtime to be had. Selling days off really adds up fast. Also, we had a record breaking rush in December when they were paying $1300 for days off; can't count on that happening again.
On the other hand, last year the trip pay for FOs was only $225. As of January this year that has gone up to $500. Figure 6 trips/month on average, salary plus trip pay comes out to around $83K for the year. Not at all impossible to sell days and break $100K if you live local. We do carry load specialists on almost all trips now, but you can still plan on about $3K/year of load pay too, since it's a 2 man job, and not all of our stops have someone qualified to help.
We do have several commuters, and the scheduler builds lines specifically for them at 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. On the down side, the majors are cracking down on their jumpseat policies, and some have kicked us out, because we don't have much to offer them with our non-sked industry. Not sure which ones we still have, since I don't commute.
The job can be pretty tough; a 1 AM callout, followed by 5 legs and 16 hours duty is normal. If you can't handle that, don't come here because you'll be miserable. That's what our customers demand of us; nothing the company can do about it. You'll also have to help load around 30% of the time. Load pay is $100 flat rate; could be anywhere from 10 minutes to 3 hours.
The best part of the job, in my opinion, is the flexibility. Some guys are content with less money, and they regularly call in and rotate themselves to the back of the line before they go to bed. Those guys only average a couple trips per month, and those who want to work more get all their trips. The company doesn't care, and every one is happy.
As others have said, you don't get much flight time here, maybe 300/year average. If you're trying to get on with the majors, you'll probably be better off at the regionals. If you're stuck at Expressjet with no upgrade in sight, go to the regionals that offer street captain positions.
USA Jet is probably the best place for 3 types of pilots: low time CFIs, homebodies, and over-65s. The low timers can come get some hard-core, real life experience in the Falcons under part 135, and make more money than they would as instructors. (Not sure exactly what they make, ask Pilotyip.) The homebodies like me can make 6 figures and still spend a lot of time at home. I could make more elsewhere, but I would be away from home literally twice as much. And the geezers who can't kick the habit can come have some fun on a contract basis, working whenever they feel like it.
On the other hand, last year the trip pay for FOs was only $225. As of January this year that has gone up to $500. Figure 6 trips/month on average, salary plus trip pay comes out to around $83K for the year. Not at all impossible to sell days and break $100K if you live local. We do carry load specialists on almost all trips now, but you can still plan on about $3K/year of load pay too, since it's a 2 man job, and not all of our stops have someone qualified to help.
We do have several commuters, and the scheduler builds lines specifically for them at 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. On the down side, the majors are cracking down on their jumpseat policies, and some have kicked us out, because we don't have much to offer them with our non-sked industry. Not sure which ones we still have, since I don't commute.
The job can be pretty tough; a 1 AM callout, followed by 5 legs and 16 hours duty is normal. If you can't handle that, don't come here because you'll be miserable. That's what our customers demand of us; nothing the company can do about it. You'll also have to help load around 30% of the time. Load pay is $100 flat rate; could be anywhere from 10 minutes to 3 hours.
The best part of the job, in my opinion, is the flexibility. Some guys are content with less money, and they regularly call in and rotate themselves to the back of the line before they go to bed. Those guys only average a couple trips per month, and those who want to work more get all their trips. The company doesn't care, and every one is happy.
As others have said, you don't get much flight time here, maybe 300/year average. If you're trying to get on with the majors, you'll probably be better off at the regionals. If you're stuck at Expressjet with no upgrade in sight, go to the regionals that offer street captain positions.
USA Jet is probably the best place for 3 types of pilots: low time CFIs, homebodies, and over-65s. The low timers can come get some hard-core, real life experience in the Falcons under part 135, and make more money than they would as instructors. (Not sure exactly what they make, ask Pilotyip.) The homebodies like me can make 6 figures and still spend a lot of time at home. I could make more elsewhere, but I would be away from home literally twice as much. And the geezers who can't kick the habit can come have some fun on a contract basis, working whenever they feel like it.
04-20-2018, 05:22 PM
#210
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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I'm in my second year at USA Jet. Last year, I spent the first 3 months in training, then worked a lot of overtime and made $98K, while averaging 9 days away from home per month, with 2 weeks off over Christmas and New Years. A couple caveats though: we were understaffed all last year, so there was a lot of overtime to be had. $650/day off adds up fast. Also, we had a record breaking rush in December when they were paying $1300/day off. Can't count on that happening regularly.
On the other hand, last year the FO's trip pay was only $225; as of January this year it went up to $500. If you figure 6 trips/month on average, the salary plus trip pay adds up to $83K. Not at all impossible to sell some days and get close to $100K, if you live local. Also, even though we carry load specialists now, you can still count on about $3K per year load pay, because it's a 2 man job, and not everywhere we go has a qualified person to help.
The job can be pretty tough. A 1 AM callout, followed by 5 legs and 16 hours duty is normal on the 121 side. It's even worse for the Falcons. That's how our customers run their business; nothing we can do about it. If you can't handle that, don't come here, because you'll be miserable. Also, you'll have to help load around 30% of the time. Load pay is $100 flat rate; can be anywhere from 10 minutes to 3 hours.
As others have said, you don't get much flight time here, maybe 300/year average. If you're trying to get on with the majors, you'll probably be better off at the regionals. If you're stuck at Expressjet with no possibility of upgrade, go to the regionals who offer street captain positions.
The best part about this company is the flexibility. Some people don't need a lot of money, and they call in and rotate themselves to the back of the line before they go to bed at night. Then they skip the 1 AM callout and only work a couple trips a month. Meanwhile, those of us who want a little more money can sell a day and get their trips. The company doesn't care and everyone is happy.
In short, this is certainly not the right job for everyone, but I think it is the best place for 3 types of people: the low time CFI, the homebodies, and the +65s. The low timer can come fly the Falcon under part 135, get some hard-core, real-life experience, and make more than he would as an instructor. (not sure how much they make, ask Pilotyip) The homebodies like me can make 6 figures, and still be home a lot. I could make a lot more elsewhere, but I would be away from home literally twice as much. And the geezers who can't kick the habit can come have some fun in the Falcon on a contract basis, working whenever they feel like it.
At the end of the day, judging by the number of lifers we have here, it must be a pretty good gig.
On the other hand, last year the FO's trip pay was only $225; as of January this year it went up to $500. If you figure 6 trips/month on average, the salary plus trip pay adds up to $83K. Not at all impossible to sell some days and get close to $100K, if you live local. Also, even though we carry load specialists now, you can still count on about $3K per year load pay, because it's a 2 man job, and not everywhere we go has a qualified person to help.
The job can be pretty tough. A 1 AM callout, followed by 5 legs and 16 hours duty is normal on the 121 side. It's even worse for the Falcons. That's how our customers run their business; nothing we can do about it. If you can't handle that, don't come here, because you'll be miserable. Also, you'll have to help load around 30% of the time. Load pay is $100 flat rate; can be anywhere from 10 minutes to 3 hours.
As others have said, you don't get much flight time here, maybe 300/year average. If you're trying to get on with the majors, you'll probably be better off at the regionals. If you're stuck at Expressjet with no possibility of upgrade, go to the regionals who offer street captain positions.
The best part about this company is the flexibility. Some people don't need a lot of money, and they call in and rotate themselves to the back of the line before they go to bed at night. Then they skip the 1 AM callout and only work a couple trips a month. Meanwhile, those of us who want a little more money can sell a day and get their trips. The company doesn't care and everyone is happy.
In short, this is certainly not the right job for everyone, but I think it is the best place for 3 types of people: the low time CFI, the homebodies, and the +65s. The low timer can come fly the Falcon under part 135, get some hard-core, real-life experience, and make more than he would as an instructor. (not sure how much they make, ask Pilotyip) The homebodies like me can make 6 figures, and still be home a lot. I could make a lot more elsewhere, but I would be away from home literally twice as much. And the geezers who can't kick the habit can come have some fun in the Falcon on a contract basis, working whenever they feel like it.
At the end of the day, judging by the number of lifers we have here, it must be a pretty good gig.
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