Elusive Napkin

Atlas has already asked for a received interpretation to the "all-cargo" language. Atlas is permitted to operate passenger and cargo flying as long as all pilots flying passengers have 117 rest and are beneath cumulative limits prior to initiating a passenger flight. The pilot may then operate a 121 flight. Basically the pilots must be in compliance with the regulations that govern each operation. When you think about it, it really is no different than a Part 135 pilot operating a Part 91 leg home, etc. As mentioned in the above post you are referencing the section that applies to carriers "volunteering" to operate all cargo operations under Part 117. Those carriers aren't permitted to revert to 121 on an ad-hoc basis to preserve operational integrity.

I definitely don't think this is justifiable or right. But then again the whole cut-out stinks. We should all people and fatigue affects us all. Just passing along the info.

JonnyKnoxville

By this point, it is no secret that Atlas wants a 767 minimum fleet size of 20 aircraft. Atlas approached Global about purchasing North American when North American went into bankruptcy. Global wanted to only sell it as a package deal with World. Atlas only wanted the 767s and not the MD-11s, the deal fell apart. It would not suprise me at all if talks have resumed. Anything is possible for the right price.

With all that said, these rumors of Atlas buying a certain competitor always seem to pop up when things are looking bleak at a company. We were also rumored to be buying Southern at one time. The rumor was so strong that our unions met to discuss possible integration scenarios.

Didn't World just lose a bunch of flying with the military that is going to force more furloughs and parking more airplanes? I have heard a fleet of 5 at World and 5 at North American, maybe Global wants out, but why go through bankruptcy then unless that is to shed costs for a higher sale price.

Who knows, is this Purchase, New York source a first hand source or a friend of a friend, etc?

idleclamp

Do you have an actual source, or is it just hearsay and trying to connect dots?

ToBeOrNotToBe

Not true. Atlas is not even a contender anymore. Only rumor I would believe is World is going out of business. There is no market for their business model.

cloudroller

Actual source is good. It's not the van drivers brother in Bacu's cousin who lived in Brooklyn 10 years ago friend. AAWW is public, the people who are technically in the know won't say anything. But like I said it's the rumor floating around. It may or may not be true. According to some people at AAWW it's true. Next time you see a MX guy ask if they know about any new 767s.

Anyone notice atlas is no longer accepting resumes but it's press release says it's growing the 76 fleet.

cloudroller

Johnny - everyone lost the Military cargo flying. That's mostly what World did. So they have a huge problem. According to Flynn Atlas had 4 aircraft deticated to Military cargo. Flynn, the GLobal CEO and I believe the World Union all tried a joint effort to persuade the Mililtary to change its mind. Which did not work.

MD-11Loader

If the rumors of Evergreen shutting down are true, then World gets first rights to any AMC fixed buys because they are on the same team. That could help keep some on property.

ATCsaidDoWhat

Not good enough though. Look for them to end up at Omni, much better fit. Atlas might want to grow the 76 fleet...and will...but not with the associated merger and integration headaches associated with that kind of purchase. They've been there, done that and don't need the t-shirt to remind them.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Omni is not even a player at the table. Evergreens demise will not stop Worlds.

v1uhoh

True that. Maybe 9 months ago World could have taken advantage, but now they are in more dire straits. While World and EIA were waiting for each other to go TU, Atlas wasn't waiting for anything.