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Rmk1991 08-20-2020 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 3112818)
National had an advertisement on LinkedIn back on 11AUG that they were hiring for a number of positions including 747FO. When you clicked to apply, the link sent you to 'JSFirm' for the actual application. It seems the hiring window is now closed.

In the past 2 weeks, they have brought 2 ex-Cathay 747s out of the desert - brining their active fleet to 4 747s, 1 757 and 1 A330.

Thats a fast window. I was looking on the 4th and 5th of this month and there was nothing. I sent in my stuff to HR over there with an internal and crickets.

pangolin 08-20-2020 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rmk1991 (Post 3113174)
Thats a fast window. I was looking on the 4th and 5th of this month and there was nothing. I sent in my stuff to HR over there with an internal and crickets.

I know someone hired there so it does happen.

Cujo665 08-26-2020 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Rmk1991 (Post 3113174)
Thats a fast window. I was looking on the 4th and 5th of this month and there was nothing. I sent in my stuff to HR over there with an internal and crickets.

Omni's hiring window opened for 4 hours last week. 1,200 applications flooded in.

Varsity 10-06-2020 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2892501)
Iíve said this before and I say it again, AMC and the DOD donít want Airbus in their civilian fleets. Thatís from folks that speak directly to them.

This proved to be false.

National is flying their A330 almost exclusively for the DOD.

4runner 10-06-2020 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3140920)
This proved to be false.

National is flying their A330 almost exclusively for the DOD.


We tried to do this and were told no.

Whalehunter 10-07-2020 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3140920)
This proved to be false.

National is flying their A330 almost exclusively for the DOD.

Are you sure? Looks like it just sits in MCO all the time.

4runner 10-08-2020 12:57 PM

Iíve been told that the DOD wonít permit their primary carrier to have a foreign aircraft. Iíve seen Delta 330ís in KWI and a few other spots. 330ís were cheap a few years ago and 767ís were hard to find and expensive. A certain ACMI operator proposed 330ís to replace their 767ís and were rejected. This carrier is a primary DOD airlifter.

filejw 10-08-2020 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 3142282)
Iíve been told that the DOD wonít permit their primary carrier to have a foreign aircraft. Iíve seen Delta 330ís in KWI and a few other spots. 330ís were cheap a few years ago and 767ís were hard to find and expensive. A certain ACMI operator proposed 330ís to replace their 767ís and were rejected. This carrier is a primary DOD airlifter.

DAL has used A330's for years and recently a few A350 trips..

anothermember 10-09-2020 06:50 AM

10 years ago I was flying DoD trips on the A320 (only type we had) so whoever told you might not know. In this business, really?:D


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 3142282)
Iíve been told that the DOD wonít permit their primary carrier to have a foreign aircraft. Iíve seen Delta 330ís in KWI and a few other spots. 330ís were cheap a few years ago and 767ís were hard to find and expensive. A certain ACMI operator proposed 330ís to replace their 767ís and were rejected. This carrier is a primary DOD airlifter.


wjcandee 10-10-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Whalehunter (Post 3141667)
Are you sure? Looks like it just sits in MCO all the time.

Well, it's based in MCO, so...

September was its first full month of operation. It did 21 legs, a combination of domestic and international. In comparison, the average Omni 767 makes say 30-35 legs per month, same combination of domestic and international. But the work comes in spurts, so it's hard to get apples-to-apples. The A330 is on track to do closer to 30 legs this month, but the mil passenger work in this quarter is likely to be a little lighter compared to prior years. Still, for the first couple of months in service, the utilization isn't bad for the space it is in, and will likely increase to be on par with Omni. But the economics of these operations means that you can't have a brand-new airplane banging you for a big lease payment every month, or you'll be out of business in a year. You need a capital cost that allows the aircraft to sit around from time to time without putting you into Chapter 11, but you need an aircraft that the AMC customer thinks looks nice inside and out, and is well-maintained so that when the heavy periods hit, you can perform reliably. It seems like this aircraft fits the bill.

National does get a positively-insane amount of use from its 757 passenger aircraft, for a military charter aircraft, at least. It did 54 legs both domestic and international in September. In the air virtually every day. (Of course, some of the international trips require stops where an A330 wouldn't, but, still. That 29-year-old ex-AA airplane is a cash cow, and they manage to keep it running reliably.)

And you probably know this, but National pulled 3 Pratt-powered cargo 747-400s from the desert and sent them to SAT to bring back into service. One of National's two GE-powered 747s recently went through a heavy check in TPE, and when it came out, the other went in. They have both seen heavy service this year.

One of the 3 that were being readied for service at SAT just started into revenue service today, so they currently have two flyable 747-400s. By the end of November, the one in TPE should be back in service, and the two in SAT should be as well. So by Thanksgiving or so, National should have 5 747-400s in the air, up from 2.


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