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Whaledriver 03-04-2015 07:20 AM
Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 1836446)
Rumor has it that the other MD11 op (Nordic/World jet something) are getting 400s.
The word is they are getting two BCF's.

The two that Atlas was using part time.

METO Guido 03-05-2015 05:56 AM
Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 1836446)
Low pay, traveling abroad in economy, Afghanistan, CH11 and the report on Bagram is not out but its not good in the twittesphere, might be good reasons to think twice.

One recently quit in training and some of the people they are getting are having trouble in training including an already 747 experienced guy.

I honestly would think hard before going to National. Sorry, i hope not to offend but companies like National, Kalitta, Southern and Skylease, are not good ops.

Rumor has it that the other MD11 op (Nordic/World jet something) are getting 400s.
Soooo...the guys trying to make a living at the 6 airlines mentioned are what exactly? Is jerking gear at Atlas worthy enough, ABX then? Perhaps not when UPS or better still FDX is the comp. Judging by the abundance of alarming posts out of that group these days, might we suspect flying freight as a career choice is questionable all together? Well here we are no apologies. If National is offering you a seat, you've done your homework and it is something that fits for you in the present, go for it. You'll look a lot stronger to the resume sifters up the chain having that "bad op" on yours.

captjns 03-05-2015 07:09 AM
Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 1837430)
Soooo...the guys trying to make a living at the 6 airlines mentioned are what exactly? Is jerking gear at Atlas worthy enough, ABX then? Perhaps not when UPS or better still FDX is the comp. Judging by the abundance of alarming posts out of that group these days, might we suspect flying freight as a career choice is questionable all together? Well here we are no apologies. If National is offering you a seat, you've done your homework and it is something that fits for you in the present, go for it. You'll look a lot stronger to the resume sifters up the chain having that "bad op" on yours.
Well said sir. However I'd add one additional thought.... It's easier to get a job whilst currently employed than pounding the Tarmac.

ContactApproach 03-08-2015 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 1837430)
Soooo...the guys trying to make a living at the 6 airlines mentioned are what exactly? Is jerking gear at Atlas worthy enough, ABX then? Perhaps not when UPS or better still FDX is the comp. Judging by the abundance of alarming posts out of that group these days, might we suspect flying freight as a career choice is questionable all together? Well here we are no apologies. If National is offering you a seat, you've done your homework and it is something that fits for you in the present, go for it. You'll look a lot stronger to the resume sifters up the chain having that "bad op" on yours.
Thanks for that. It's refreshing to see someone positive for once in this industry.For me, It will work out great. Thanks for not being a naysayer.
-CA

727C47 03-08-2015 03:11 PM
K4 has its issues but it's a good op, stick to what you know Braniff, the K4 guys and girls are going to UPS, AA,Alaska, Delta, United, and Netjets, some of the best people and pilots I have had the pleasure to share a cockpit with, I'm proud to be an alumni.

727C47 03-08-2015 03:21 PM
And I was proud to support our boys and girls in Afghanistan

longhauler 03-08-2015 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Whaledriver (Post 1836688)
The word is they are getting two BCF's.

The two that Atlas was using part time.
The owner is none other than James Neff of Southern fame. He has owned two BCF's and has been leasing them where he could. He has MD11's from Nordic one from China Eastern sitting in KOSC and then the two BCF's that he has not been able to lease. I believe Oscoda is doing the MX for Mr. Neff.

ContactApproach 03-09-2015 01:47 PM
Any updates on class dates for new hires?

Awi8tr 03-16-2015 06:23 AM
It looks like the 757 class is postponed for now, since there seems to be some issues with the 2 new airplanes, either maintenance or certification related. In the mean time the company welcomed their new president, who has a lot of civilian airline experience under his belt and used to be a Chief Pilot at Northwest Airlines at one point. Hopefully this change will keep us out of Afghanistan and have us fly more charters in the more friendly part of the world. We are also currently bidding to fly the basketball teams for March Madness. Hopefully we will resume hiring in the near future.

Natca 03-17-2015 07:56 AM
Originally Posted by Awi8tr (Post 1843811)
It looks like the 757 class is postponed for now, since there seems to be some issues with the 2 new airplanes, either maintenance or certification related. In the mean time the company welcomed their new president, who has a lot of civilian airline experience under his belt and used to be a Chief Pilot at Northwest Airlines at one point. Hopefully this change will keep us out of Afghanistan and have us fly more charters in the more friendly part of the world. We are also currently bidding to fly the basketball teams for March Madness. Hopefully we will resume hiring in the near future.
Just as a FYI those charters are typically VERY low yield as they have many bidders and lower budgets.


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