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Old 07-23-2017, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 81pilot View Post
Eastern pilots have already been offered jobs. Some are taking it, some are not. First group will go when the firat airplane goes around the end of August. We all understand what happened and that Swift just bought the assets from Eastern. New company, new rules, new pay scale. Yes, we were lied to. Only time will tell about growth or demise. It can go either way.
Yep...Eastern's owners wanted out, and they wanted out so bad, that they sold what was worth a dollar, for fifty cents. Nothing wrong with Swift making that deal, they really didn't need Eastern....

Or is there more to this seemingly stupid deal. The Eastern name was of recognition value, but will be discarded. The Eastern Certificate, was of significant value, but will be turned in to the FAA.

Hmmmm....I'm really scratching my head here. What's wrong with this picture guys. Help me here...does this really make sense. Or is there a more sinister plot afoot for the money people. Stay tuned....In the mean time, we the PUPITS - on both sides of this fiasco - will continue to have our strings pulled.

Had a job before Swift, had a job before Eastern. May not be what we think is perfect for us, but if this doesn't work, NEXT......
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:25 PM
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What is a "Pupit"? Do you mean "Puppet" as in Ms. Piggy?

The EAL name should have never been re-animated (see the movie) from it's grave. I do not believe one person from the original Eastern was involved. The management team was a hodge podge of, let's just say, INTERESTING AIRLINE PEOPLE, with various INTERESTING pasts. It lasted as long as most thought and it's over.

Swift will use it for growth and new aircaft, that's it. They are being kind offering crew new jobs and yes, they also need crews. Again, not all will be welcome and I reckon not all will be employed very long. Inside intel says there were nefarious characters employed at Eastern. Some, not all, are grossly misrepresenting themselves and it eventually comes out in the sim. It is why more direct entry captains are being hired.

You are right MNPS about what may happen. I never thought Allegiant would be where they are today. Judging by Mexi and Triggs coomments, and I know a few others, Swift seems to be headed in the right direction. Make the best of it, read previous post, or you might not survive very long.

Best of luck either way.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:21 PM
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Well said Braniff.
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:04 PM
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So now it's getting interesting, 2 Eastern NGs imminently, some from Europe and some from Xtra bringing it up to 6 NGs by the end of the year.
I know Xtra is owned by a leasing company and Swift is taking Xtra contracts, but come on are they really going to do business with a direct competitor?
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:10 PM
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So now it's getting interesting, 2 Eastern NGs imminently, some from Europe and some from Xtra bringing it up to 6 NGs by the end of the year.
I know Xtra is owned by a leasing company and Swift is taking Xtra contracts, but come on are they really going to do business with a direct competitor?
How is that doing business with a direct competitor?
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:36 AM
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From all the information we had presented, the Eastern name is supposed to survive. We will see what happens in the next month.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoat View Post
From all the information we had presented, the Eastern name is supposed to survive. We will see what happens in the next month.


Yeah but eastern is keeping their name and certificate. Swift did not buy their certificate. Just assets and contracts.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotnotPirate View Post
So now it's getting interesting, 2 Eastern NGs imminently, some from Europe and some from Xtra bringing it up to 6 NGs by the end of the year.
I know Xtra is owned by a leasing company and Swift is taking Xtra contracts, but come on are they really going to do business with a direct competitor?


Sounds to me more like taking out the competition.
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mexipilot84 View Post
Sounds to me more like taking out the competition.
Swift bought the assets, including the name.
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Old 07-30-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 81pilot View Post
Swift bought the assets, including the name.
You are correct. The Eastern name was the only thing going for it.
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