Notices
CommutAir Regional Airline

Do not come here!

Old 10-21-2017, 07:53 AM
  #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 907
Default

Ur assumptions are correct. They might throw in free printing paper and free crew room cost to build that $74000 too.
Bgood is offline  
Old 10-23-2017, 10:37 AM
  #12  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 61
Default

Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
To be fair, CommutAir wasn't the first to advertise annual pay that way (several months ago, Air Wisconsin did- they now show it in a 3 year window; Trans States currently does, etc). Beginning in December, First Officers will begin @ $36.91/hour. At guarantee, that equals $33,219. Conservatively, most people figure crediting (not block) 1,000 hours in a year without trying hard, that would be $36,910. Honestly we don't have many work rules, but there are extra soft pay provisions not being included here. Add the bonus being paid to EVERYONE $22,100, that equals $59,010. Yes, they add in the cost of insurance, 401K, POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) performance bonuses, per diem, parking, uniforms & commuter hotel rooms. So put your own dollar amount to those benefits. My spouse has a really good job at a really big company and other than a few areas, our medical & dental insurance is better (again, subjective).

Will you fly with people that are in the CPP program- yes. Are there many awesome pilots here that aren't in the program, or haven't applied to it- yes.

As of now, our fleet is scheduled to go to 40 jets (we currently have 21 or 22). There is a MOU with United to go to 61 jets total. I don't think anyone here sees that happening without huge changes in contract, recruiting and retention improvements/additions. Right now, based on how upper management is handling many things, I don't personally know anyone who would recommend working here. Honestly, the next few months will be quite telling for our future...

Hope that gives you a little more insight.
Whoop is offline  
Old 10-23-2017, 10:43 AM
  #13  
Layover Master
 
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,309
Default

Originally Posted by Whoop View Post
To be fair, CommutAir wasn't the first to advertise annual pay that way (several months ago, Air Wisconsin did- they now show it in a 3 year window; Trans States currently does, etc). Beginning in December, First Officers will begin @ $36.91/hour. At guarantee, that equals $33,219. Conservatively, most people figure crediting (not block) 1,000 hours in a year without trying hard, that would be $36,910. Honestly we don't have many work rules, but there are extra soft pay provisions not being included here. Add the bonus being paid to EVERYONE $22,100, that equals $59,010.

Hope that gives you a little more insight.
What's laughable is that NONE of this (including other airlines) represents training pay. You don't magically credit 1000 hours your first year when 3-8 months of it you are making min guarantee.
PotatoChip is offline  
Old 10-23-2017, 03:29 PM
  #14  
Day puke
 
FlyJSH's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
Default

Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.

I got the same post card today. Considering I haven't been in an airplane in 3 years nor had a medical for 2, they must be pretty desperate.
FlyJSH is offline  
Old 10-23-2017, 05:45 PM
  #15  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 61
Default

Originally Posted by FlyJSH View Post
I got the same post card today. Considering I haven't been in an airplane in 3 years nor had a medical for 2, they must be pretty desperate.
FlyJSH love your logo- is that the old North Central logo?
Whoop is offline  
Old 10-23-2017, 05:56 PM
  #16  
Day puke
 
FlyJSH's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
Default

Indeed; it is Herman the duck.

North Central Airlines history - hermantheduck.org - home page Enjoy. Read some of the stories; the guys talk about flying several different TYPES in a day.

That was when a regional airline served a REGION rather than a Master.
FlyJSH is offline  
Old 10-24-2017, 05:27 AM
  #17  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MusDg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: B747 Driver
Posts: 198
Default

Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
Got the same post card. What's the skinny now compared to what has been previously posted?
MusDg is offline  
Old 10-29-2017, 12:05 PM
  #18  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 61
Default

Originally Posted by MusDg View Post
Got the same post card. What's the skinny now compared to what has been previously posted?
PM sent- check your msgs.
Whoop is offline  
Old 10-31-2017, 11:07 AM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 203
Default

[QUOTE=jbeauv;2450879]Anyone surfing this forum that is considering coming to Commutair, do yourself a huge favor and consider going to another carrier. The are far better options out there. If you have questions PM me.[/QUOT

Okay, I got this post card.... how accurate is any of it? I’m flying for Mesa and it’s a one leg commute for me right now. Please give me the skippy, I am supposed to skype interview on the 2nd.... thanks
Whatmeworry is offline  
Old 11-30-2017, 07:17 PM
  #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 120
Default

Why does commutair want 30 hours ME time, can’t you credit 25 hours in the sim?
bamike is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices