Do not come here!
10-20-2017, 04:16 AM
#1
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Do not come here!
Anyone surfing this forum that is considering coming to Commutair, do yourself a huge favor and consider going to another carrier. The are far better options out there. If you have questions PM me.
10-20-2017, 08:55 AM
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So, I'll bite.
Yes this place has issues. Every place has some sort of issues (I've been to several). For many people, this may not be the place for them, I don't disagree. To say many of us are frustrated with upper management is a gross understatement. I won't spew rumors that aren't official, but based on cryptic conversations with union and mid-management folks, there MAY BE reasons for hope coming soon.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
Yes this place has issues. Every place has some sort of issues (I've been to several). For many people, this may not be the place for them, I don't disagree. To say many of us are frustrated with upper management is a gross understatement. I won't spew rumors that aren't official, but based on cryptic conversations with union and mid-management folks, there MAY BE reasons for hope coming soon.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
10-20-2017, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoop
So, I'll bite.
Yes this place has issues. Every place has some sort of issues (I've been to several). For many people, this may not be the place for them, I don't disagree. To say many of us are frustrated with upper management is a gross understatement. I won't spew rumors that aren't official, but based on cryptic conversations with union and mid-management folks, there MAY BE reasons for hope coming soon.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
Yes this place has issues. Every place has some sort of issues (I've been to several). For many people, this may not be the place for them, I don't disagree. To say many of us are frustrated with upper management is a gross understatement. I won't spew rumors that aren't official, but based on cryptic conversations with union and mid-management folks, there MAY BE reasons for hope coming soon.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
Why should anyone come here or expect any new hope coming soon? Please include facts.
10-20-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoop
I won't spew rumors that aren't official, but based on cryptic conversations with union and mid-management folks, there MAY BE reasons for hope coming soon.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
Why should everyone stay away from this place, in your opinion? Please include facts.
I've been hearing crazy rumors since I got here. But so far all that has happened is a painfully slow induction of ERJs, DHC-8s parked early, and the resultant downgrades and displacements. Now combine that with the way the operation is managed and how people are treated, morale is in an abysmal pit. Those are facts.
10-20-2017, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jbeauv
Anyone surfing this forum that is considering coming to Commutair, do yourself a huge favor and consider going to another carrier. The are far better options out there. If you have questions PM me.
None of us are happy with the way management has handled anything, and I will not recommend this place to a friend, but your vague post asking people to PM you so you can share your sob story are less than informative. We're all miserable right now.
10-20-2017, 02:53 PM
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When I asked for facts, I was just asking jbeauv his blanket statement facts he wants to spread for not coming (as did PosRateGearUp ask jbeauv to also air his facts). I may not refute them. For some people, it doesn't make sense to leave. For some it doesn't make sense to stay. Those are both facts. I won't spread any rumors and will wait to see if anything is coming to fruition. If someone won't upgrade here longer, due to the displacements and has been crapped on by the company, I don't blame them one bit for going to Envoy, Endeavor, Air Wisconsin, etc. if they can get a better quality of life (pay, quicker upgrade, retention bonus, being based at or close to home, etc). Several that are assigned displacement class dates have already applied elsewhere (in addition to people currently on the jet; again I don't blame anyone for looking). The people that I'd argue that may do well to apply here for a while are new to 121 people, who don't have the time to upgrade yet, as there will be a lot of movement (either as CPP people move up, more First Officers leave and/or qualified people here upgrade after the Dash transition is over). A lot of things suck here right now- no question. If it wasn't for most of the awesome people here, this place would be hopeless. However, though it isn't fast enough for many, I feel the company is trending in the right direction (though they have a long way to go and I believe most of management understands this).
10-21-2017, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PosRateGearUp
Wow, this is an insightful post. PM you? Just air out your dirty laundry here, bub. You left and now you're mad that a debt collector came to get the bonus back you signed a contract for.
None of us are happy with the way management has handled anything, and I will not recommend this place to a friend, but your vague post asking people to PM you so you can share your sob story are less than informative. We're all miserable right now.
None of us are happy with the way management has handled anything, and I will not recommend this place to a friend, but your vague post asking people to PM you so you can share your sob story are less than informative. We're all miserable right now.
10-21-2017, 07:30 AM
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I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!
Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.
I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.
I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
