marshal

I have questions about the CPP program at CommutAir.

How long does it take to get accepted into the program?
How many pilots move on to United a month on average?
Once you meet the hour requirements, how soon doe you get move up to United?

Also, if I have previous 121 time, realistically, how quick could an upgrade happen?

poopplop

Answered above. I don't think you should choose an airline solely for the United CPP. Find the place with the best pay and contract.

turboprop87

How did you arrive at .8/month?

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jacburn

Different answers for the same questions.

You will get to take the Hogan test and if passed, you will do an interview at UA. If you don't pass either, then you wait a year and start over. You only get to try twice. If you fail either, you are out of the program after your second attempt.

The number moving to UA deals specifically with the UA new hire classes. We get to fill 10% of the new hire classes with our pilots that have completed the interview process and have at least 1000 hours of PIC time at CommutAir. Since UA has had no new hire classes lately until this month, we have not sent anyone in a long time.

As soon as you get the hours (1000 PIC at C5) you will be able to move over to UA fairly quick due to the low number in the CPP pool. The trick right now is getting the 1000 PIC time.

Upgrade time at C5 is currently over one year and climbing on the ERJ. Management seems to think that time will decline again, but that will only happen if they can find people to come in the door to fill the bottom of the list with new incentives or better quality of life in the contract.

aviatorpr

You can get accepted into the program quickly. Before you start Indoc they will let you take the Hogan, if you pass, you will wait until completion of new hire training and IOE(2-3 months). Then you can schedule your interview in Denver, which could be scheduled the following month. You will hear back the next week after the interview if you passed that step. From there it’s anyones guess how quickly you can get in the left and get your 1000. The CPP is slightly better at C5 over XJT and Whisky bc they require 2000 PIC before eligible to get into the pool to go. Also we have a much smaller pilot group so you won’t wait nearly as long to go over once qualified.

I second what JacBurn said regarding upgrade times. Once this Dash training transition is complete in late Feb to early March, we will have the ability to train a lot of new hires again. But we have to be able to get the applicants here to staff the planes they have waiting to be delivered to get the upgrades going again at a faster pace.

poopplop

Take the total number of people sent to United and divide it by the total number of months the program has been running. The number you arrive at will be very small. Definitely smaller than the 15-25 people the wholly owned carriers are sending to American and Delta each month.

turboprop87

Qualifying that value with lack of UA new hire classes would be appropriate.

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poopplop

I'm not here to sugarcoat the numbers. He asked what the average was so I gave it to him. If you want to blow sunshine and rainbows up his @ss then go ahead.

turboprop87

Huh.

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poopplop

What.

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