What's the Latest with Commutair?
05-23-2018, 01:22 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
Hey guys, considering leaving a charter 737 airline (very slow upgrades, not much movement, and not many moving to the majors from here) for Commutair because of the easy path to United and the advertisements of a quick upgrade to captain (and the operation from what I see looks very professional upfront). My overall goal is to get into a major, like most of us here, and I do miss the regional lifestyle.
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
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Most recent upgrade award was hired in April of 2017.
05-23-2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
Hey guys, considering leaving a charter 737 airline (very slow upgrades, not much movement, and not many moving to the majors from here) for Commutair because of the easy path to United and the advertisements of a quick upgrade to captain (and the operation from what I see looks very professional upfront). My overall goal is to get into a major, like most of us here, and I do miss the regional lifestyle.
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
I would give it a shot, and if you don't make it into the CPP first time around, quit and goto Piedmont for the DEC spot.
05-23-2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
Hey guys, considering leaving a charter 737 airline (very slow upgrades, not much movement, and not many moving to the majors from here) for Commutair because of the easy path to United and the advertisements of a quick upgrade to captain (and the operation from what I see looks very professional upfront). My overall goal is to get into a major, like most of us here, and I do miss the regional lifestyle.
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Look at an American Airlines regional. Much quicker route to a major! PSA, Envoy or Piedmont.
05-23-2018, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
Hey guys, considering leaving a charter 737 airline (very slow upgrades, not much movement, and not many moving to the majors from here) for Commutair because of the easy path to United and the advertisements of a quick upgrade to captain (and the operation from what I see looks very professional upfront). My overall goal is to get into a major, like most of us here, and I do miss the regional lifestyle.
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
I looked at an AA WO before coming here and from what I gathered it would be at least 7 years before you would flow. The five year time difference was not worth the guarantee flow to me.
05-23-2018, 02:23 PM
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It's a tough choice, I keep hearing the only way into the majors (UAL AAL DAL) is through a regional. I did hear the same thing about the Envoy PSA Piedmont flow and know a few people there, Envoy has people that have been there for 15 years that are just flowing now.
05-23-2018, 09:12 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
Hey guys, considering leaving a charter 737 airline (very slow upgrades, not much movement, and not many moving to the majors from here) for Commutair because of the easy path to United and the advertisements of a quick upgrade to captain (and the operation from what I see looks very professional upfront). My overall goal is to get into a major, like most of us here, and I do miss the regional lifestyle.
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
Is it worth it? How accurate is it when they say "if you have prior 121 time you will upgrade fast", how fast is fast, and are people going to United after they hit their 1000 PIC? Basically, is it a sales pitch or is it legit?
I left a decent paying Boeing job due to many factors, including a slow upgrade, for CommutAir and hugely regret it. I left that clown show as soon as my one year was up. And no, I do not feel bad calling it a clown show. I’ve never seen such bad operations, Scheduling, dispatch, etc. The operation is FAR from professional. I’ve worked at many airlines and it is by far the least professional I’ve ever seen. Instructors wear jeans, sneakers and un-ironed shirts. Check airman wear wrinkled shirts and North Face jackets. People just don’t care and literally take pride in looking bad.
If you want to leave for a regional, go to a guaranteed AA wholly owned or a reputable airline like SkyWest or Endeavor. Feel free to PM me.
Then again, you MIGHT hit it lucky and be okay. But realize a year ago they were promising 3 aircraft/month, and ended up adding three in an entire year.
05-23-2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by marshal
There is lots of growth happening here. (Which is great for seniority, but creates some logistical issues.) Scheduled to get another plane in June. Upgrade time is going to fall quickly in the upcoming months from many have said and projected. I was able to take the Hogan before Indoc so I knew I had passed that part before I started which gave me peace of mind about the process. There has been someone who completed the whole CPP right at 2 years. As long as United keeps having classes, the CPP keeps moving qualified pilots through.
I looked at an AA WO before coming here and from what I gathered it would be at least 7 years before you would flow. The five year time difference was not worth the guarantee flow to me.
I looked at an AA WO before coming here and from what I gathered it would be at least 7 years before you would flow. The five year time difference was not worth the guarantee flow to me.
05-23-2018, 09:17 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by b738pilot
It's a tough choice, I keep hearing the only way into the majors (UAL AAL DAL) is through a regional. I did hear the same thing about the Envoy PSA Piedmont flow and know a few people there, Envoy has people that have been there for 15 years that are just flowing now.
AA is starting to hire more OTS pilots outside of flows. SWA, UPS, FedEx regularly hire non-regional types. The reason they hire more regional pilots is simply statistics, there ARE more regional pilots. If you have the competitive minimums and can stand out, you can be hired from a 91/135.
05-24-2018, 06:36 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Five year time difference? So you’re going to UA in two years or less? And the person you speak of was 2 years, 10 months. And they were an anomaly.
It's a calculated risk. Guaranteed flow at an AA WO or CPP/DGI? I think the AA flow is a great back pocket option, but it shouldn't be plan A. CPP/DGI can be a plan A, but shouldn't be a plan B. They're very different programs.
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