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Old 08-22-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
And yet you signed up for it anyway. More fool you then.





They pay you....NOTHING? That seems unlikely.



So you KNOWINGLY signed up to a non-‘respectable’ job? Where they ‘trapped’ you? After doing the same thing less than a year ago? You are certainly a slow learner.



The payscale posted is $39.00 a year for 145 FO. What aircraft are you flying? And who told you the pay was going to be higher?



So you are asking WHAT THE TERMS ARE ipof a contract that you ALREADY signed AFTER having spent the money? After having signed a contract that you didn’t understand in your previous job and walking away from that?

Either you are the poster child for slow learning or the poster child for most entitled. Which is it?
You keep on making assumptions and bringing up my previous post. Who told you I broke my contract? Additionally if a contract states that if you leave before a certain time, you must pay back the money given to you, and you do give them back their money, is that breaking a contract? No reason to get butthurt and be so clingy...

It’s clear you are a COMPANY man and have been trickigered by my post so I’m not going to waste my time with this nonsense.

I was inquiring if the company will accept a payment plan, which should of told you, if you were reading instead of assuming, that I am going to honor the contract and pay them back. If I was trying to break the contract, I would not be asking for information on how to pay back. The other two people answered the question by providing information that is useful and could be used to make a decision. They did not get their feelings involved but I get that’s a lot to ask from a COMPANY MAN. After all, it will only take 6 years to reach the current Envoy’s, Endeavor’s and Piedmont’s first year FO pay. “No BIG DEAL. AT LEAST THE COMPANY IS PAYING YOU AND WHAT AN AWFUL PERSON YOU ARE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT LEAVING.” -Company man
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
You keep on making assumptions and bringing up my previous post. Who told you I broke my contract?
So you are saying the info you put in your postings a year ago was untrue? Because if you are currently working for Commutair you would have had to have reneged on your previous contract if the prior postings were accurate.


Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
Additionally if a contract states that if you leave before a certain time, you must pay back the money given to you, and you do give them back their money, is that breaking a contract? No reason to get butthurt and be so clingy...
Not butthurt, and certainly not clingy. Just trying to give you a warning since you obviously lack insight that reneging on two contracts in a row will establish a record that may make you unemployable at places you might someday want to work, assuming that you were ever going to be competitive there anyway. It’s clearly ironic, though, to have YOU lecturing me (or anyone else) about contracts. That’s gonna be my laugh of the day.

Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
It’s clear you are a COMPANY man and have been trickigered by my post so I’m not going to waste my time with this nonsense.
Ooooh. He called me a COMPANY man, and believes it trickigered (sic) me. Who is making assumptions now? But in fairness, your time would be better spent by actually ANALYZING your future decisions rather than just merely signing contracts without reading them and then appealing to people on APC to commiserate with you, help you sort out your mistake, and listen to you denigrate your current employer.

Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
I was inquiring if the company will accept a payment plan, which should of told you, if you were reading instead of assuming, that I am going to honor the contract and pay them back. If I was trying to break the contract, I would not be asking for information on how to pay back.
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. You were only asking about breaking the contract on your postings of your PREVIOUS employer. You were merely claiming your current one paid you nothing, a criminal violation of the 13th amendment to the constitution if true.

But it was coming across as entitled whining. And ...they pay you NOTHING? I think most people would think that the accuracy of your statements left something to be desired.


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The other two people answered the question by providing information that is useful and could be used to make a decision. They did not get their feelings involved but I get that’s a lot to ask from a COMPANY MAN.
I think you missed the sarcasm in some of those replies. Insight does not appear to be your forte.

Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
After all, it will only take 6 years to reach the current Envoy’s, Endeavor’s and Piedmont’s first year FO pay. “No BIG DEAL. AT LEAST THE COMPANY IS PAYING YOU AND WHAT AN AWFUL PERSON YOU ARE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT LEAVING.” -Company man
So you are planning on staying an FO for 6 years? And did you not look at the payscales before you signed on? In addition to not reading the bonus contract? Did “the COMPANY” find you drunk in a bar and get you to sign on when you weren’t competent? I doubt the latter, and am unsure about the former.

I would encourage you to do the math though this time and use a little forethought. There are ways you could mitigate the damage and some potential positives.

Going to a different company would have some advantages. You’d likely acquire another type rating which would be a plus for future employment prospects at a major. If you’ve actually managed to acquire 500 hours of 121 time, Envoy might give you a $45k near-DEC bonus that could pay off your remaining Commutair bonus with money left over. If you are anywhere close to 500 hours or a year on property at Commutair you could get a larger bonus and remove the possible taint of leaving employment while on probation by finishing out the year.

But leaving two different aviation employers before your contract is completed (and especially before you are off probation) will be noticed by future prospective employers and likely not in a particularly favorable way. If your career aspirations stop at regional FO, that’s no biggie. If they are something higher it is something you may wish to consider.

It seems like the common denominator in all your actions is that you have gone ready-fire-aim. You have signed (apparently without reading) two employment contracts which you later regretted.
Perhaps you ought to really think through for what’s best for your immediate and distant career BEFORE you take action this time.
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny10 View Post
You keep on making assumptions and bringing up my previous post. Who told you I broke my contract? Additionally if a contract states that if you leave before a certain time, you must pay back the money given to you, and you do give them back their money, is that breaking a contract? No reason to get butthurt and be so clingy...

It’s clear you are a COMPANY man and have been trickigered by my post so I’m not going to waste my time with this nonsense.

I was inquiring if the company will accept a payment plan, which should of told you, if you were reading instead of assuming, that I am going to honor the contract and pay them back. If I was trying to break the contract, I would not be asking for information on how to pay back. The other two people answered the question by providing information that is useful and could be used to make a decision. They did not get their feelings involved but I get that’s a lot to ask from a COMPANY MAN. After all, it will only take 6 years to reach the current Envoy’s, Endeavor’s and Piedmont’s first year FO pay. “No BIG DEAL. AT LEAST THE COMPANY IS PAYING YOU AND WHAT AN AWFUL PERSON YOU ARE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT LEAVING.” -Company man
Why did you want to fly for a living?
Its obvious you're not happy. Why not do something else?
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