BestOfficeEver

Long time lurker, trying to decide between CommutAir and PSA. (Also posted this on the PSA threasd.)

As I see it:

Pros for C5:

Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900

Pros for PSA:

Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs

I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.

jacburn

Cpp is an interview opportunity. Currently moving our pilots from C5 to UA almost as soon as the 1000 hour PIC time is acquired. To acquire the 1000 PIC hours could be done in under 3 years.

Great group of Pilots with the small company feel. Kind of like a dysfunctional family at times that we all look out for each other most of the time. (this is not a negative statement against the company, because I love being know as a person and not a number).

Upgrade time is going to be running back to the "as soon as you have the hours" or given to those in indoc class if they have the hours in the next few months if I am reading the tea leaves correctly.

There is almost a non existent Reserve right now. Only a month or two at the max once you are done with IOE. Any FO's want to chime in and verify this?

CommutAir is 40% owned by UA. UA can only currently own less than 50% of any other airline due to their FA contract.

We are adding about a plane every 3 weeks.

BestOfficeEver

Thank you for the additional insights! There is a great advantage to being recognized as a person and not a commodity.

Do you have any additional insight to the CPP? The language I've found states something to having a training record acceptable to UA. As someone that's had a few checkride mishaps in the past, it worries me that the past might be a disqualifier, even with a successful 121 record (and of course getting past the Hogan).

marshal

If you have success at CommutAir, I would not think past checkride failures would not be an issue, most people have some failures in their history. Upgrade time should drop to under a year pretty soon. In my class there were some who only did one month of reserve before getting a line in EWR. The CPP is not a true flow, but at half the time worth the risk in my opinion.

They do let you take the Hogan before Indoc so you know where you stand before you show up.

BestOfficeEver

Thank you. When will the EFB's hit the lines, as I keep hearing different estimated times?

marshal

The LOA has been signed. I have heard anywhere from 3-6 months. I have also heard Jeppsson has said they will stop paper charts by Dec. If that is true, there is a real deadline.

flying4401

I've been looking at C5 as well. I would follow the growth and have heard good things about the UA CPP from a few colleagues who are there.

Noleone

What’s a realistic timeframe for a new hire FO to expect with the CPP from Commutair to United (assuming starting with zero 121 time)?

JediCheese

3-4 years if United is hiring and they work hard to build time.

Jecain7

how are things overall at C5? many complaints? or just the avg regional?