Commutair or Expressjet?
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And I will add, just because there are still some of those airlines (skywest) that make you stay with someone else in the same room. We are always single occupancy rooms. No one ever has to sleep with anyone else at C5.
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We currently have a rotating door at C5 with the upper CA's going on to other majors and classes of new hires starting every couple of weeks. The reserve time for new hire FO's is very short (one or two months) because of the current hiring and promotions. We do not have a top heavy group of CA's that are blocking up the seniority list. Yes, I know that a lot of the ASA CA's left for K4, but that did not take care of the L-XJT side.
It is still unknown if the new XJT CEO will repeat history by pulling down a large number of the XJT existing fleet to cover the new 175 aircraft like he has a history of doing in the past. If he does pull down more of the 145 flying, there will be stagnation over the next year. Yes, that happened at C5 while he was here and his previous carriers as well.
It is still unknown if the new XJT CEO will repeat history by pulling down a large number of the XJT existing fleet to cover the new 175 aircraft like he has a history of doing in the past. If he does pull down more of the 145 flying, there will be stagnation over the next year. Yes, that happened at C5 while he was here and his previous carriers as well.
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The current seniority level going to UAL is middle of the pack. Almost everyone going over in february is a reserve CA. 2007 hires.
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BTW, I am no longer at XJT, so unlike you I don't have any skin in this. Trying to give those asking an unbiased opinion.
Like I wrote above, I've been around long enough to have seen this before.
Unless a pilot is looking to be a "lifer" those at the very top of a list won't matter. What matters is being able to hold a line as a FO, upgrade, and hopefully hold a line as a captain. In the case of XJT there are more bases and larger aircraft coming online to entice senior pilots giving those who want the opportunity advancement.
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Thank you both for your input. One of my biggest takeaways from this thread is that C5 pilots are NOT saying “do not come here! You’re crazy considering this over XJT!”
Likewise, on the XJT thread most of the posting people at least seem hopeful that the future will not be more contraction or stagnation.
Basically it sounds like a toss up. I feel like commutair isn’t as flashy and the airport reserve will suck, but it’s the more conservative choice with existing growth and continuous movement in the entire seniority list.
Expressjet would probably be a great choice- better training (as I’ve heard), flights to Mexico, $15k more per year just starting out. But if it keeps contracting like it has been in 2018, it is the wrong choice. I would be putting at least some faith in the pilot group’s hope that things are going to get better.
I have a week or so to decide. Keep letting me know your thoughts. Thank you.
Likewise, on the XJT thread most of the posting people at least seem hopeful that the future will not be more contraction or stagnation.
Basically it sounds like a toss up. I feel like commutair isn’t as flashy and the airport reserve will suck, but it’s the more conservative choice with existing growth and continuous movement in the entire seniority list.
Expressjet would probably be a great choice- better training (as I’ve heard), flights to Mexico, $15k more per year just starting out. But if it keeps contracting like it has been in 2018, it is the wrong choice. I would be putting at least some faith in the pilot group’s hope that things are going to get better.
I have a week or so to decide. Keep letting me know your thoughts. Thank you.
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Thank you both for your input. One of my biggest takeaways from this thread is that C5 pilots are NOT saying “do not come here! You’re crazy considering this over XJT!”
Likewise, on the XJT thread most of the posting people at least seem hopeful that the future will not be more contraction or stagnation.
Basically it sounds like a toss up. I feel like commutair isn’t as flashy and the airport reserve will suck, but it’s the more conservative choice with existing growth and continuous movement in the entire seniority list.
Expressjet would probably be a great choice- better training (as I’ve heard), flights to Mexico, $15k more per year just starting out. But if it keeps contracting like it has been in 2018, it is the wrong choice. I would be putting at least some faith in the pilot group’s hope that things are going to get better.
I have a week or so to decide. Keep letting me know your thoughts. Thank you.
Likewise, on the XJT thread most of the posting people at least seem hopeful that the future will not be more contraction or stagnation.
Basically it sounds like a toss up. I feel like commutair isn’t as flashy and the airport reserve will suck, but it’s the more conservative choice with existing growth and continuous movement in the entire seniority list.
Expressjet would probably be a great choice- better training (as I’ve heard), flights to Mexico, $15k more per year just starting out. But if it keeps contracting like it has been in 2018, it is the wrong choice. I would be putting at least some faith in the pilot group’s hope that things are going to get better.
I have a week or so to decide. Keep letting me know your thoughts. Thank you.
I will add that I don't think UAL just sank a bunch of money into XJT in order to contract it.
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How much money was actually sunk, here. 70m (even if not split in two) is like a rounding error.
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They bought it for a reason. It would have been easy to have just let SkyWest shut XJT down. But UAL made a decision to not let that happen.
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