New Hire Expectations
03-01-2021, 10:09 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz
Did any of the Aussie guys and gals make it over from XJT? Was told they had a heap of them on Visas before they closed up.
We have a few at OO, heard they are pretty cool group of pilots to fly with.
We have a few at OO, heard they are pretty cool group of pilots to fly with.
03-01-2021, 10:13 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by jacburn
First, we do not do direct entry CA's. CA's upgrade in seniority order. If no one above you has the hours or desire to upgrade, then you will be able to hold CA.
As far as downgrading, you will take a large pay cut and most majors look down on those that downgrade without a very good reason.
Also, as long as everything stays the same, there will be more junior CA's behind those that get hired now, so those sitting at the bottom will not be on the bottom long (unless something like COVID stops all hiring again).
As far as downgrading, you will take a large pay cut and most majors look down on those that downgrade without a very good reason.
Also, as long as everything stays the same, there will be more junior CA's behind those that get hired now, so those sitting at the bottom will not be on the bottom long (unless something like COVID stops all hiring again).
03-01-2021, 10:20 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by jacburn
First, we do not do direct entry CA's. CA's upgrade in seniority order. If no one above you has the hours or desire to upgrade, then you will be able to hold CA.
As far as downgrading, you will take a large pay cut and most majors look down on those that downgrade without a very good reason.
Also, as long as everything stays the same, there will be more junior CA's behind those that get hired now, so those sitting at the bottom will not be on the bottom long (unless something like COVID stops all hiring again).
As far as downgrading, you will take a large pay cut and most majors look down on those that downgrade without a very good reason.
Also, as long as everything stays the same, there will be more junior CA's behind those that get hired now, so those sitting at the bottom will not be on the bottom long (unless something like COVID stops all hiring again).
03-01-2021, 01:05 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by dead meat
I think they meant to ask if DEC's will have to downgrade once FO's get the time to upgrade. As jacburn said, nobody gets hired as a DEC. If recruiters are telling anyone that, they are lying. Everyone is hired as an FO and bids for base and seat (if available) during training. Once you become a CA (i.e. pass your line check), you can't be downgraded. We did have some people awarded upgrade before covid that then came back as FO's. But they have all be awarded CA again.
03-01-2021, 02:18 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
Thank you. I hear that folks with the time are upgrading in new hire training. If they pick me to come aboard I was wondering if that could be a possibility and the pros and possible cons
Be a captain
Receive captain pay
Con:
You have to deal with our training department and have to figure it out more than as a FO (who can lick windows and not kill everyone to pass)
Your seniority is poor so enjoy the bad flying no one else wanted
03-22-2021, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky11
Is hiring still happening? I saw they recently posted on social media that atp/ctp is now provided. Current CFI with 1300 hours. Also in Aviate and hoping that helps in this current environment.
The careers page never took down the paid CTP statement.
03-22-2021, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by climb150
It will most probably be provided only when we run out of ATP qualified applicants.
The careers page never took down the paid CTP statement.
The careers page never took down the paid CTP statement.
03-22-2021, 10:57 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by sparky11
Is hiring still happening? I saw they recently posted on social media that atp/ctp is now provided. Current CFI with 1300 hours. Also in Aviate and hoping that helps in this current environment.
Aviate will help.
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