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MGMTiswatchingU 03-02-2018 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by the apprentice (Post 2541048)
Conditional reserve is easy when management cancels your flight which is every single day you show up to work they make you sit airport reserve until your original release time and thats a lo of hours of sitting around at the airport doing absolutely nothing.

Another possible scenario is that they will continue to deadhead you endlessly. I have shown up to work for a 4 day trip worth 21 hours of actual flying. At the end of those 4 days I have deadheaded for 8 hours and flown 2 hours.

Can you say management is clueless and extremely incompetent?

Apprentice just leave, why complain when you can just leave? Leave so that others can move up in seniority. Don't hold up the line....as hot potato would say, there are better regionals out there that may satisfy you. Just quit man, problem solved. ;)

CozyDriver 03-02-2018 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by the apprentice (Post 2541048)
Conditional reserve is easy when management cancels your flight which is every single day you show up to work they make you sit airport reserve until your original release time and thats a lo of hours of sitting around at the airport doing absolutely nothing.

Another possible scenario is that they will continue to deadhead you endlessly. I have shown up to work for a 4 day trip worth 21 hours of actual flying. At the end of those 4 days I have deadheaded for 8 hours and flown 2 hours.

Can you say management is clueless and extremely incompetent?

Thanks for the insight. Are you a CA, or FO? Commuter? Any particular reason this is happening? For example, are they positioning you for flights that keep getting cancelled? Do they have knowledge that your flights are being cancelled well before you head to the airport, and telling you too late? Is it happening to lots of pilots? And what do you do sitting for hours and not flying - cribbage, APC, and updating jepp charts? Speaking of which, when are iPad EFB's coming?

MGMTiswatchingU 03-02-2018 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by CozyDriver (Post 2541064)
Thanks for the insight. Are you a CA, or FO? Commuter? Any particular reason this is happening? For example, are they positioning you for flights that keep getting cancelled? Do they have knowledge that your flights are being cancelled well before you head to the airport, and telling you too late? Is it happening to lots of pilots? And what do you do sitting for hours and not flying - cribbage, APC, and updating jepp charts? Speaking of which, when are iPad EFB's coming?

Hahahaha!! He/she APCing.

CozyDriver 03-02-2018 06:07 AM

Easy there pardner, I'm not taking sides here. Just looking for all available info. Some of those are questions for MGMT too :D

MGMTiswatchingU 03-02-2018 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by CozyDriver (Post 2541076)
Easy there pardner, I'm not taking sides here. Just looking for all available info. Some of those are questions for MGMT too :D

I know you ain't, it's just funny how you included that since that's what he is currently doing to reply to ya. Haha!

the apprentice 03-02-2018 06:12 AM

All of this is standard operating procedure around this place. All this happens for a couple reasons. The most logical to explain is because we are extremely short staffed in every possible way. The other reasons are because management is to busy on the forums spreading fake news instead of running the organization.

EFB's? I am not holding my breath, They have been stashed in some secret room in Cleveland of which only a handful of people have allegedly seen them and are waiting to who knows what to role them out to the pilot group.

As you can see management is to busy spending his days on the forums instead of applying himself to something more productive in improving this company.

As for me I am on here because I have completed my morning walk around the airport, took a nap and I am sitting conditional reserve for most of the day. But if you are worried of my postings don't be alarmed the internet connection is about to get extremely slow because they can not even provide us a descent internet connection in the crew room.

Management instead of me leaving why don't you and the rest of the management team turn your resignations in and allow for more competent people to come in and turn this place around?

PotatoChip 03-02-2018 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by CozyDriver (Post 2541064)
Thanks for the insight. Are you a CA, or FO? Commuter? Any particular reason this is happening? For example, are they positioning you for flights that keep getting cancelled? Do they have knowledge that your flights are being cancelled well before you head to the airport, and telling you too late? Is it happening to lots of pilots? And what do you do sitting for hours and not flying - cribbage, APC, and updating jepp charts? Speaking of which, when are iPad EFB's coming?

It happens because CommutAir has a terrible contract that allows it to happen and they don’t know how to run an airline. I’m not exaggerating. They aren’t positioning you for anything. They simply don’t want to send you home and still pay you. However, that’s exactly what happens at most airlines. Instead, CommutAir Forces pilots to sit at the airport when their flights cancel for upwards of eight hours. They will do this no matter how many reserves they actually have. I’ve seen over 20 pilots sitting around doing nothing with the company refusing to let them go home. This has resulted in pilots being forced to stay overnight and missing flights home.
I’ve personally sat “conditional reserve” for over seven hours on more than one occasion in a five month period.
It happens all the time. They often know before you commute to work, but will not tell you until you actually show up. Other airlines will tell you before you commute, and you will be off with pay at home. That’s how it should work.
MGMT will try and spin this somehow, And will tell people that don’t like it that they should quit. That should be a red flag to you.

MGMTiswatchingU 03-02-2018 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by the apprentice (Post 2541080)
All of this is standard operating procedure around this place. All this happens for a couple reasons. The most logical to explain is because we are extremely short staffed in every possible way. The other reasons are because management is to busy on the forums spreading fake news instead of running the organization.

EFB's? I am not holding my breath, They have been stashed in some secret room in Cleveland of which only a handful of people have allegedly seen them and are waiting to who knows what to role them out to the pilot group.

As you can see management is to busy spending his days on the forums instead of applying himself to something more productive in improving this company.

As for me I am on here because I have completed my morning walk around the airport, took a nap and I am sitting conditional reserve for most of the day. But if you are worried of my postings don't be alarmed the internet connection is about to get extremely slow because they can not even provide us a descent internet connection in the crew room.

Management instead of me leaving why don't you and the rest of the management team turn your resignations in and allow for more competent people to come in and turn this place around?

I'm not the one complaining. I am totally great here :D

the apprentice 03-02-2018 06:26 AM

You might not be complaining but you are horrible at your job. The mere fact that you are happy here does not make you qualified to do your job. Do everyone a favor and resign this will bring the greatest amount of happiness to the greatest amount of people.

CozyDriver 03-02-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2541082)
It happens because CommutAir has a terrible contract that allows it to happen and they don’t know how to run an airline. I’m not exaggerating. They aren’t positioning you for anything. They simply don’t want to send you home and still pay you. However, that’s exactly what happens at most airlines. Instead, CommutAir Forces pilots to sit at the airport when their flights cancel for upwards of eight hours. They will do this no matter how many reserves they actually have. I’ve seen over 20 pilots sitting around doing nothing with the company refusing to let them go home. This has resulted in pilots being forced to stay overnight and missing flights home.
I’ve personally sat “conditional reserve” for over seven hours on more than one occasion in a five month period.
It happens all the time. They often know before you commute to work, but will not tell you until you actually show up. Other airlines will tell you before you commute, and you will be off with pay at home. That’s how it should work.
MGMT will try and spin this somehow, And will tell people that don’t like it that they should quit. That should be a red flag to you.

Thanks Chip. I assumed every regional pilot had a second job that could be done on a small laptop at odd hours from any random airport terminal for exactly that reason. Sucks about the wifi speed though.


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