GoJet new TA. What to expect?
 

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2 emails ago from the MEC stated mangement wasn’t even considering pay increase talks. How can we keep the same pay and expect to be competitive in hiring? Not to mention the attrition here is increasing.

CommuteAir Pay of 72/hr x 75/mth guar = 5400/mth x 12/mths = 64,800 + 25,000/bonus = 89,800 / 12/mths = 7483/mth / 75/mth guar = 99.78/hr. In other words you make above industry average of 90/hr now. No pay raises needed. If you don’t stay long enough to get your bonus, consider it your own fault. Don’t forget to add on those SIX (for rsv, 4 for line holders) PAID Commuter Hotels per month. That is another 600/mth or 7200.00/year. Stop complaining and go fly. HR has a FLOOD of applications considering most other regionals have stopped hiring low/no 121 time FO’s.

If your line of thinking was correct then we’d be seeing an increase in pilots when in reality we’ve lost more pilots than we’ve gained since September of 21. Not to mention captain attrition rates. Half the bonus goes to taxes anyway and the pay only equals out when you’re assuming min pay. Anyone flying a line is getting 85+ hours a month and at $95 an hour that’s $97,000 a year not including all the bonuses American regionals get. Most people would rather have an hourly increase and not have to pay back their bonus in full when they go to American or Delta or any LCC/ULCC who hire more United express pilots than United. Why stay?

The bonus is *initially* taxed at a higher rate....because it's a bonus....but it evens out on the year-end income. Not much would change netting it out as income.

Bringing the hourly rate up needs to happen, as well as some QoL improvements and, I expect, some asks around improvement to Aviate. Right now, Aviate doesn't seem to be worth much of anything. The MEC seems to be well aware of these priorities. But, for the pay to get where you want it, UA has to want to do it.

What would you offer/give up/negotiate in return?

I’d love it if ready reserve goes away 😩

Uh I'd offer to keep working there?

I'd give up my time and labor in exchange for a paycheck.

The quoted post displays the kind of attitude that resulted in this terrible LOA. It's not 2021 or 2011 or 2001, we don't need to make sacrifices in one area for gains in another area.

Respectfully, I disagree. It doesn't display anything other than what the folks sitting across the table will expect. Personally, I agree that the pilot group is in an advantageous position. But it ALSO appears that the MEC has to give to get. The question is one of value and who values x over y, so to speak.

It's hard to be circumspect about things we're emotionally connected to and affected by.

I don't follow. The give-and-take only works when both sides are on a level playing field, but it's a pilot's market. The seniority list will continue to shrink until actual improvements are made all around.

My hope (and I think yours, too) is that management sees it that way. They may not see it that way.

Thinks we should hope for.

Reduced ready reserve (they just do it because crew scheduling doesn’t actually have to plan when everyone’s wasting away at the airport).

$90/$140 respectively.

Clarity on Aviate Program.

I’d be happy If they paid and trained CS better, because they don’t really understand much of anything beyond basic questions.