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gojo 05-28-2017 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by veewan (Post 2370902)
And how many E175, orders and options?

Really, how many would be allowed per current scope clauses? I'll give you a hint, it's 0. Come on, it's basic math. Maybe you can also talk about the MRJ. Oops, still ZERO. What's left is the seconds you can get from other carriers.

word302 05-28-2017 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Roguesquadren2 (Post 2370903)
What a minute Compass has 56 E175 (that they don't own) Skywest has 100 E175 (that they do own) according to APC so what's wrong with having CRJ's as well?

But, but, logic. Lol.

TillerTemptress 05-28-2017 09:46 PM

I mean, at some point all 3 regionals will work out something for the next gen jets re: scope/weight/seats, and Compass will get 170E2s or MRJ or whatever. Not owning any airplanes can be an asset... you aren't stuck with a bunch of 200's.

veewan 05-29-2017 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 2370937)
I mean, at some point all 3 regionals will work out something for the next gen jets re: scope/weight/seats, and Compass will get 170E2s or MRJ or whatever. Not owning any airplanes can be an asset... you aren't stuck with a bunch of 200's.

It can be an advantage, but as was seen with losing 6 planes at Compass, it can also be a curse.

Places like SkyWest can rebrand their planes...a CRJ 700 that stops flying for United can get repainted to fly as AA etc. Same number of planes=same number of pilots required vs less planes=less pilots required.

Who says they are stuck with CRJ200s? They got out of the Brasilia pretty nicely. You'll see them still flying around, just in new paint... hauling boxes even :cool: My guess is they already have buyers lined up or a plan to capitalize on those airframes when the time comes.

Although they have a lot of CRJ200s, they have 221 planes that are 70+ seats. Nearly 60% of their fleet is 70+ seats. And they have orders for more large RJs.

Gojo thinks that regionals are scoped out, and let's assume they are (I really hope they are, but if anyone heard what Scott Kirby openly wants, it's more large RJs outsourced). Seconds in this new market may come from regionals closing or consolidating. That's just speculation though at this point.

amcnd 05-29-2017 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by veewan (Post 2370902)
And how many E175, orders and options?

104 on property. Originally, 200 firm 200 options. 96 more firm orders...

amcnd 05-29-2017 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 2370937)
I mean, at some point all 3 regionals will work out something for the next gen jets re: scope/weight/seats, and Compass will get 170E2s or MRJ or whatever. Not owning any airplanes can be an asset... you aren't stuck with a bunch of 200's.

Remember most of OO's200's are paid off, pulling in a good profit, and can be parked with no penalty..

amcnd 05-29-2017 06:34 AM

Compass is a awesome airline. My main worries are...why they lost The MSP flying. Thats there HDQ.?? Why they didnt fight to keep that instead of getting pushed West.. being owned by Hulas, Main worries about SkyWest is lots of 200's. But seems to work for them... and owning XJT how that will effect the future.

gojo 05-29-2017 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2370997)
104 on property. Originally, 200 firm 200 options. 96 more firm orders...

My question still remains, where does scope allow for more 175's?

TheFly 05-29-2017 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2370998)
Remember most of OO's200's are paid off, pulling in a good profit, and can be parked with no penalty..

This right here. This is why there is a demand for 200s right now. We've added a dozen or so more for our Delta flying in DTW, with some additional 700 & 900s.

TheFly 05-29-2017 07:40 AM

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...-and-San-Diego

SkyWest...more west coast flying coming soon.


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