What can I expect in MSP for training
#1
What can I expect in MSP for training
Can someone give me the rundown of what training will look like in MSP for 6-8 weeks.
- dress code, how long classes are, M-F or also on weekends?
Sorry first go-around at the regionals, this is all new to me.
I start at the end of January! Very excited!
- dress code, how long classes are, M-F or also on weekends?
Sorry first go-around at the regionals, this is all new to me.
I start at the end of January! Very excited!
#5
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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Edit: here's what I've posted before and I think it still stands:
"My advice as the best student Compass has ever had, is to stay one week ahead of everything. Know all your GOS crap when you go in, then study for the systems during the first week, study procedures and flows during fms/systems class. Also that first Friday when you're introduced to the fms computer program come in on the weekend to mess around with the fms especially if you've never used one. Know all our flows before IPTs so you can focus on systems, and once you're ready for SV be studying the procedures. Being one step ahead makes the training a lot easier because some instructors will hold your hand while the...ahem..."older" guys usually assume you know everything already and teach you the next step rather than the lesson for that day. All in all not too bad and they will work with you if you need a little extra time, but it's much easier and faster just to be prepared and get through everything 100%.
Edit: Also to add you should be able to find the IPT schedule in the training office so you can show up during the off times to load it up and practice with an IPT sim with your partner. Make sure to ask an instructor the first IPT day how to start it up, fix it when it freaks out, shut it down, and how to call mx when it screws up cause those things can be touchy."
#6
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Or if you plan to be LAX based, I would suggest the Snoop Dog approach... bow wow wow yippy yo yippy yay
#7
Dress code is business casual just look professional and not like you're going to College Class 101. First couple weeks in class are M-F of mostly death by PowerPoint. After that you are assigned a training schedule that you bid for in class. I'll look thru my old posts I have a write up of what my training was like if I can find it.
Edit: here's what I've posted before and I think it still stands:
"My advice as the best student Compass has ever had, is to stay one week ahead of everything. Know all your GOS crap when you go in, then study for the systems during the first week, study procedures and flows during fms/systems class. Also that first Friday when you're introduced to the fms computer program come in on the weekend to mess around with the fms especially if you've never used one. Know all our flows before IPTs so you can focus on systems, and once you're ready for SV be studying the procedures. Being one step ahead makes the training a lot easier because some instructors will hold your hand while the...ahem..."older" guys usually assume you know everything already and teach you the next step rather than the lesson for that day. All in all not too bad and they will work with you if you need a little extra time, but it's much easier and faster just to be prepared and get through everything 100%.
Edit: Also to add you should be able to find the IPT schedule in the training office so you can show up during the off times to load it up and practice with an IPT sim with your partner. Make sure to ask an instructor the first IPT day how to start it up, fix it when it freaks out, shut it down, and how to call mx when it screws up cause those things can be touchy."
Edit: here's what I've posted before and I think it still stands:
"My advice as the best student Compass has ever had, is to stay one week ahead of everything. Know all your GOS crap when you go in, then study for the systems during the first week, study procedures and flows during fms/systems class. Also that first Friday when you're introduced to the fms computer program come in on the weekend to mess around with the fms especially if you've never used one. Know all our flows before IPTs so you can focus on systems, and once you're ready for SV be studying the procedures. Being one step ahead makes the training a lot easier because some instructors will hold your hand while the...ahem..."older" guys usually assume you know everything already and teach you the next step rather than the lesson for that day. All in all not too bad and they will work with you if you need a little extra time, but it's much easier and faster just to be prepared and get through everything 100%.
Edit: Also to add you should be able to find the IPT schedule in the training office so you can show up during the off times to load it up and practice with an IPT sim with your partner. Make sure to ask an instructor the first IPT day how to start it up, fix it when it freaks out, shut it down, and how to call mx when it screws up cause those things can be touchy."
#8
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 74
Thanks.... let’s talk about the experience....
First of all great group of people, every single person I met who instructed me or supported me as left seater has been fantastic.
A lot of new instructors and all motivated. I was the unlucky guy of the 5th period for 4 weeks in a row, but every single night, if it was possible they did their best to move our slot earlier. There is a lot to study, the more you do at home the better will be. Systems limitations and GOS questions, study them,find where the answers are in the FOM. Use your home studying during the CBT time so when you get to training you can learn flows, calls and procedures. Depend on your proficiency and background you may find one group of events more difficult than others.
First 2 weeks of class are mainly lessons, try to survive but use your afternoon to review systems and limitations and read the AOM II ( recommend to read the DL one where you have index for a quick look).
IPT are more focused on preflight flows and your system knowledge and limitations, to prepare you for the system validation.
As soon as the system validation is done the fun begins.
You start flows and procedures with checklist. I tried to study them before hand but they didn’t really make any sense until you see how is done, especially with the recent changes they have incorporated .
FPT is intense especially FPT 2!!!. Know your flows by the end of FPT very well so you will enjoy Sims. Read your assignments before every class and you will be ahead of the game.
I had fun during Sim and Loft. For me they were not difficult but because I knew my calls, flows and procedures so I could concentrate in learning how compass want you to do your stuff and fly the airplane .
Instructor will not hold your hand so is really up to you , but if you study they will see that and your life will be easier.
Bottom line you will range from brand new to very experience instructors and they are all trying to give you the most out of it even if it’s 3 am in the morning. Be respectful, study and you will be fine.
I didn’t have any 121 experience before , I did have high performance and jet experience and both myself and my sim partner were ex military. We probably studied more than what was required but if you do it will pay off big time. The only think I was hoping of getting also was info on bidding , reserve and so on, but it didn’t happen so I will have to learn asking around ...... probably on this chat . Anyway at the end of the game it was intense but a nice experience and I met a lot of nice people...
If anyone what to PM me because have questions or doubt , since i’m fresh i’m Happy to help. Now looking forward to meet you guys in the flight line .... cheers
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