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02-07-2018, 11:28 AM

Bucknut

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Upgrade time at Compass

What is the (realistic) current upgrade time at Compass?

02-07-2018, 01:28 PM

PositveRate

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By the time i get awarded upgrade (roughly 80 numbers away) it will be another 6 months plus 2-3 months waiting for the class.. going to be close to 2 years and 9 months. With the movement now, it will come down. But that’s where I’m at. Unfortunately, just enjoying seniority!

02-07-2018, 03:30 PM

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I think 18 months to 30 months is pretty realistic for someone hired today. Depending on if hired today or a few months down the road...

02-08-2018, 07:50 AM

Motoxer66

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Originally Posted by Bucknut

What is the (realistic) current upgrade time at Compass?

This time will shorten if you have previous 121/135PIC/91K PIC time. Something to keep in mind.

well the waiting time as far as gathering hours will be less anyways.

02-08-2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Motoxer66

This time will shorten if you have previous 121/135PIC/91K PIC time. Something to keep in mind.

well the waiting time as far as gathering hours will be less anyways.

Unfortunately having prior time won't help too much. Upgrades are going in seniority order and since it's around 2 years everybody will have the time by then so prior 121 peeps won't have a chance to bypass anyone less senior. The only way the upgrade time will drop is if senior FOs leave, the upgrade rate increases, or the company grows.

02-08-2018, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Motoxer66

This time will shorten if you have previous 121/135PIC/91K PIC time. Something to keep in mind.

well the waiting time as far as gathering hours will be less anyways.

So what is the typical monthly block time you can log once you have a line number? And while I would assume upgrades are according to seniority, I would also assume it's based upon seniority of those with the required 1000 hours?

Edited - just read the new post. Forget the second question.

Last edited by Excargodog; 02-08-2018 at 08:30 AM. Reason: Update

02-08-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by poorflyer

The only way the upgrade time will drop is if senior FOs leave, the upgrade rate increases, or the company grows.

True, but I think it's fair to say that we have always seen a decent amount of FO attrition, and the upgrades will increase (because they have to). And there will always be some degree of bypassing because of those commuters who need to wait in order to upgrade into a line... anyone who comes with 1000 ratp and maybe is a commuter will build time slower... those types of things will delay upgrades and make some measure of bypassing possible. I agree though, in general, people will go in order. When you add all of the above up... on could feasibly upgrade in 18-24 months if they live in base, fly a lot, and start bidding for it at 950hrs.... the fact that we all expect little to no reserve for new hires this year definitely shortens the overall upgrade time.

02-08-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

95 is the highest you can get awarded on a monthly schedule, but you can go up to 117, so <100. I did like 97.5 once or twice, you just have to watch the 117 limits.

That's exactly right, seniority order for people who are 40hrs within 1000. Everybodys situation is different, not everyone takes the first class. We often lose 10-15 FOs a month which will accelerate your movement beyond the normal means.