Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
03-24-2019, 10:13 AM
#1881
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,182
Originally Posted by poorflyer
Let’s just say we have multiple airports the company banned us from doing night visuals because crews just hit FLCH and put their feet up while the plane careens toward terrain. Slightly understandable, night is dark, mountains are hiding. But now a certain airport is now banned for all visuals night and day, because crews are turning final below glide path and getting EGPWS.
And I believe it’s reasons like this that cpz will not drop the 2500hr min for ca upgrade for the peeps who have degrees.
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03-24-2019, 10:55 AM
#1882
On Guard!
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by Fpmx772
And I believe it’s reasons like this that cpz will not drop the 2500hr min for ca upgrade for the peeps who have degrees.
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03-24-2019, 11:52 AM
#1883
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 443
Originally Posted by poorflyer
Let’s just say we have multiple airports the company banned us from doing night visuals because crews just hit FLCH and put their feet up while the plane careens toward terrain. Slightly understandable, night is dark, mountains are hiding. But now a certain airport is now banned for all visuals night and day, because crews are turning final below glide path and getting EGPWS.
Granted visual approaches are difficult to teach to real-world conditions in the sim (especially if you're on a downwind and have to decide when to turn base yourself), but I also have a difficult time understanding why people don't fly around with the terrain page up more on the MFD. I always had it up every leg of every flight, and only didn't use it when I was using the radar. Just a thought...
03-24-2019, 01:31 PM
#1884
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 570
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It's also military pilots getting R-ATPs, not just those who sat in a classroom. Also there is no 2500 hour min if you have 1500 ME, then it's 2000.
Originally Posted by Fpmx772
And I believe it’s reasons like this that cpz will not drop the 2500hr min for ca upgrade for the peeps who have degrees.
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03-24-2019, 07:50 PM
#1885
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 2
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
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It's also military pilots getting R-ATPs, not just those who sat in a classroom. Also there is no 2500 hour min if you have 1500 ME, then it's 2000.
It's also military pilots getting R-ATPs, not just those who sat in a classroom. Also there is no 2500 hour min if you have 1500 ME, then it's 2000.
Going the military route doesn't give anyone special status as a "Sky God". It does however afford you the opportunity to begin learning, much sooner. Much like the allowance to upgrade at 2000 TT with 1500 ME, it's a recognition of experience.
Don't rush upgrading, take the opportunity to learn where you're at. Especially with a R-ATP, that opportunity has been made available much sooner to you, than to your equivalent hour peers.
03-24-2019, 08:12 PM
#1886
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 570
Originally Posted by ClimbOne
There is plenty of time in a classroom for military guys too. Over two years in military flight training, one probably logs 130 hours, but spends ten times that in the classroom.
Going the military route doesn't give anyone special status as a "Sky God". It does however afford you the opportunity to begin learning, much sooner. Much like the allowance to upgrade at 2000 TT with 1500 ME, it's a recognition of experience.
Don't rush upgrading, take the opportunity to learn where you're at. Especially with a R-ATP, that opportunity has been made available much sooner to you, than to your equivalent hour peers.
Going the military route doesn't give anyone special status as a "Sky God". It does however afford you the opportunity to begin learning, much sooner. Much like the allowance to upgrade at 2000 TT with 1500 ME, it's a recognition of experience.
Don't rush upgrading, take the opportunity to learn where you're at. Especially with a R-ATP, that opportunity has been made available much sooner to you, than to your equivalent hour peers.
03-24-2019, 08:27 PM
#1887
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 101
Well look on the bright side... So you upgrade a couple months later and a few Jr people upgrade first. Congrats that's just less reserve for you. I bypassed quite a few and for months the people upgrading were senior to me so it's not all bad.
03-25-2019, 06:51 AM
#1888
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 531
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
I know all about the classroom for military training, been there and done that. Nobody is claiming to be a sky God, except maybe some fighter guys... I kid, I kid... And it forces us to begin learning sooner, before we ever take our first flight. No matter what I still need to finish my 1000 hours of 121, just like everyone else, but in my case I need to go well beyond that 1000 in the right seat instead of upgrading like many others. If that's what it takes, I'll just keep putting in my time and pay my dues...
Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.
Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires
03-25-2019, 07:01 AM
#1889
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,481
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Pay your dues? Did you sit 1-2 years reserve and get a 2.5 year upgrade like most of the the 2016 hires? I’d say going straight to a line as an FO and upgrading the day you hit 1500 CPZ time, possibly bypassing into another line, isn’t as miserable as it may seem
Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.
Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires
Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.
Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires
Thank God.
03-25-2019, 07:19 AM
#1890
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 570
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Pay your dues? Did you sit 1-2 years reserve and get a 2.5 year upgrade like most of the the 2016 hires? I’d say going straight to a line as an FO and upgrading the day you hit 1500 CPZ time, possibly bypassing into another line, isn’t as miserable as it may seem
Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.
Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires
Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.
Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires
Yeah you came to CP at a bad time, but that doesn't take anything away from those who came in the last year.
If I wanted to fly under miserable conditions I'd go back to the Army where we had no snack baskets! No CheezIts! No Oreos! No bananas! No bloody mary mix! If only Bobby Lee were there to negotiate on our behalf it might solve their retention problem. Bobby, I see a contractor opportunity for you
Last edited by Taco280AI; 03-25-2019 at 07:30 AM. Reason: BLS Army Aviation snack basket negotiations
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