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07-23-2019, 11:03 AM

#391

TillerTemptress

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Originally Posted by DiamondDriver

Try that early morning PHX-LAX. Then a LAX-SAN turn and finish it off with an LAX-PHX. Be home by dinner.

Reserve the jumpseat if you plan to do this as these routes are all full of commuters... if you could do PHX-SLC-ABQ-SLC-PHX it might be more calm...

07-23-2019, 11:18 AM

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I would not recommend doing a SAN turn for observations. yes its a short flight and most guys just want to get them done with but the whole point of the observations is to learn a little bit. SAN is so short that you won't even catch half of what is going on and you won't have any time to ask questions. take a flight over to LAX and then do LAS or SJC or SMF. they are all about an hour flight and you will have a little more time to see things and ask question and still make it back to PHX the same day.

07-23-2019, 02:19 PM

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Seriously, the hardest transition for newbies is understanding the PACE of jet ops. Don’t think about this as just something to check off the list, try to actually get something out of the experience. Yes, you almost certainly will get type-rated regardless, but appropriate experience will expedite your transition to being a real positive to the other person in the cockpit who can handle a reasonable share of the workload rather than just someone to be there in an emergency like Otto...

https://youtu.be/rQbj9uvYL8I

07-23-2019, 03:42 PM

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f1racer328

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Alright, looking at doing PHX-SLC-DEN-LAX-PHX

Will take the entire day, but that doesn't really matter to me.

Any thoughts on that route? Couple longer legs and still some busier airspace.

07-23-2019, 03:53 PM

#395

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Originally Posted by f1racer328

Alright, looking at doing PHX-SLC-DEN-LAX-PHX

Will take the entire day, but that doesn't really matter to me.

Any thoughts on that route? Couple longer legs and still some busier airspace.

Looks good - but if you want to shorten it a bit, maybe try the return to SLC after DEN. Not much benefit to watching the crew put their feet up for an hour in cruise but exposure to LAX is always good.

07-23-2019, 04:02 PM

#396

DiamondDriver

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Originally Posted by yrbroom

Well besides that it is a catered flight

07-23-2019, 04:47 PM

#397

f1racer328

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Well besides that it is a catered flight

Snack basket must be extra good then

07-23-2019, 06:23 PM

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jungle driver

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Alright, looking at doing PHX-SLC-DEN-LAX-PHX

Will take the entire day, but that doesn't really matter to me.

Any thoughts on that route? Couple longer legs and still some busier airspace.

I would say you will learn a lot more on this than the original route you proposed. the DEN to LAX flight will be a little long but it will give you lots of time to ask questions... ask them about ACARS and VNAV those are two things that don't get covered enough in training and there is a lot to talk about it will make the hour in cruise seem like 15 minutes. I hope you get a good crew (most are) that like to show you things!

08-29-2019, 10:30 AM

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So while I am sure those with Cjo’s and class dates are keeping options open but curious if there are any class dates happening soon or currently happening ? I a date this fall

08-29-2019, 10:44 AM

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So while I am sure those with Cjo’s and class dates are keeping options open but curious if there are any class dates happening soon or currently happening ? I a date this fall

There is one going on right now (or just finished). I believe it had 2 people in it. I can only speak for LA but it looks like 8 new hires will be doing IOE in September.

Upgrades are going on, and it looks like it will continue per the vacancy.

As for new classes, per the last update the classes would continue. It has been quiet on the *anything substantial* communication from the company though.

Tomorrow is the union appointed deadline for a legitimate company update.

Keep the CJO, probably prudent to try and obtain others just in case. As crappy as that is to say.