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Old 08-21-2018, 09:39 AM
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I sure hope so! Can’t wait to join you guys!
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:58 AM
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Any word on if there will be a delay for sims due to captain upgrades? 5 seems like a relatively small class.
Currently waiting for my sims to start, it is about a three and a half week to 4 week gap between FPTs and Sims. Apparently we looked everywhere for availability. But besides that everything else is going by pretty smooth!
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:49 PM
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Currently waiting for my sims to start, it is about a three and a half week to 4 week gap between FPTs and Sims. Apparently we looked everywhere for availability. But besides that everything else is going by pretty smooth!
Even looked at Paris?
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:28 PM
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Even looked at Paris?
Supposedly. And potentially even a 190 sim in Orlando.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Vectorss View Post
Currently waiting for my sims to start, it is about a three and a half week to 4 week gap between FPTs and Sims. Apparently we looked everywhere for availability. But besides that everything else is going by pretty smooth!
So are you saying that CPZ is considering outsourcing sim training
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:53 AM
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So are you saying that CPZ is considering outsourcing sim training
Not the instructors, but they find/rent sim time at other places.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thejetpilot View Post
So are you saying that CPZ is considering outsourcing sim training
Interviewing a few months back. They mentioned Paris was an option and people loved it. It is not outsourcing just another option for sims to get us on the line.
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Old 08-23-2018, 03:36 PM
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Would finding additional sim facilities help expedite the backlog significantly and interviews significantly?
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thejetpilot View Post
Would finding additional sim facilities help expedite the backlog significantly and interviews significantly?
Well clearly additional sim time would help the backlog, but this is not a Compass unique problem. The attrition of trained people to the majors and LCCs is far higher across the board, putting more people in training, which has impacted sim time availability. Since many of these people have lower experience levels than their predecessors, and yeah, many of the instructors have less experience than THEIR predecessors (who were recently taken up to mainline), the students now are requiring more sim sessions per sim pair than their predecessors as well.

So yeah, it would help if people were getting to IOE reliably quicker, but I don't see that changing soon.

The extent to which this is causing Compass to freeze (or at least greatly reduce) interviews is something only a management guy could tell you. Certainly it would be a factor, they don't want to pay you when they don't have a classroom seat or sim to put you in - but Compass has been trying to get more FOs in the bottom than attrition because we were way behind. Eventually, the number coming in the bottom and departing the top ought to balance but how many pilots we'll have when that happens is unfortunately a management call.
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