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Old 11-29-2018, 06:34 PM
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Sorry didn't mean to put anyone on the spot. The helo guys I've flown with have been great and have much better stories than me. #compassforlife #doublewave
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:18 AM
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Not to start another debate...but I do happen to know the training failure rate had more to do with the age of trainee rather than the motion of the wing.
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:12 AM
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The cfi pilots have difficulty staying ahead of the aircraft and planning, they quickly fall on the automation to save them whereas the rotor guys only issue is the last 100 feet for some. As a checkairman that's my analysis.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:32 AM
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Is it possible the RW program at Compass stopped due to F9 flow? Anticipated increase recruitment expected, or is increased attrition wanted?

Just curious since the RTP ended at Compass a few short months ago. F9 flow detail was approved or in its final details around that time. Also with regards to “pilot shortage” majority of regionals/FFD appear properly ”staffed” or at the least staffing is planned for the next 1-2yr. Simply hiring for attrition down-the-line at Mesa, ENY, Republic, EDV, SKW, Horizon.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:16 AM
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I think a lot of airlines were simply caught short by the surge of hiring at the majors and their sudden shortage was exacerbated by the fact that their own training departments were hard hit by attrition and were never really geared fir the catchup numbers they needed to train even before that. Nor were there enough sims system wide.

So everyone stocked up on fresh meat using whatever things it took, bonuses or RTP, some folks overstocking. Now the problem seems to be more of an experience thing or at least unwillingness to give up QOL for upgrade as many of the FOs hired in some places are either unable or seem unwilling to take the upgrade.

That's diverting the resources away from helping new people in the door.

My analysis anyway, FWIW.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:17 AM
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I still think that the Compass RTP ended for simple economic reasons. There are more than enough candidates that are free (-ish) to acquire whereas an RTP candidate requires a larger $ commitment. There’s simply no need to front the money while recruitment does not appear to be an issue.

I think that, as much as we may not like it, Compass management is pretty savvy about maintaining staffing levels just a little below “adequate.” So, despite us murmuring about inadequate reserves and generally projecting that we need more people, Management has our numbers right where they want them. I don’t think the F9 deal materially affects that.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by koala98g View Post
I still think that the Compass RTP ended for simple economic reasons. There are more than enough candidates that are free (-ish) to acquire whereas an RTP candidate requires a larger $ commitment. There’s simply no need to front the money while recruitment does not appear to be an issue.

I think that, as much as we may not like it, Compass management is pretty savvy about maintaining staffing levels just a little below “adequate.” So, despite us murmuring about inadequate reserves and generally projecting that we need more people, Management has our numbers right where they want them. I don’t think the F9 deal materially affects that.
This. And it was a PITA to deal with.
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