Compass might bid for ual contract
06-20-2019, 12:49 PM
#31
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IF, and a very big if, we get those UA planes, I think it is a sure sign the Delta planes are gone next year. But like others have said, at least you have a job. Even if they are paying me 75 hours a month to sit on my ass flying 5-10 hours a month. Horizon is already doing that and they aren’t losing anything. But only time will tell. Sky isn’t falling yet.
06-20-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit
ExpressJet is not wholly owned. ManAir owns them and flight safety owns the 175 sims..
06-21-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
And who owns ManaAir? And ExpressJet owns 1 sim, while utilizing FSI for now. Rumor is a 2nd sim will be on property as soon as United moves out of the building in the training parking lot.
And no flight safety OWNS both sims.
06-22-2019, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
Makes perfect sense...
1 Ohana planes owned by HAL
2 fills any staffing void
3 getting experienced pilots
4 reduced labor cost
companies have agreements with their subsidiaries that are not wholly owned...see United and the pilot career path program.
1 Ohana planes owned by HAL
2 fills any staffing void
3 getting experienced pilots
4 reduced labor cost
companies have agreements with their subsidiaries that are not wholly owned...see United and the pilot career path program.
HAL doesnt own the plane Empire does.
Just like Compass the staffing problems is Empire’s problem mostly before it becomes Hawaiian’s.
Because lot of FOs from the islands got picked up at one point in 2017 doesn’t mean a flow fantasy is gonna happen.
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06-22-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Machgyver
HAL doesnt own the plane Empire does.
Just like Compass the staffing problems is Empire’s problem mostly before it becomes Hawaiian’s.
Because lot of FOs from the islands got picked up at one point in 2017 doesn’t mean a flow fantasy is gonna happen.
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Just like Compass the staffing problems is Empire’s problem mostly before it becomes Hawaiian’s.
Because lot of FOs from the islands got picked up at one point in 2017 doesn’t mean a flow fantasy is gonna happen.
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06-22-2019, 09:03 PM
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If we could put the compass/HAL thing to bed for eternity:
Union guy at CPZ befriended HAL guy. Got talking and came up with a flow agreement. Worked on it back and forth for quite a while. Finally proposed it to the CPZ management, surprisingly they loved it. Several meetings were had and the plan was it was a genuine flow but HAL had influence in the CPZ interview process. I forget the details, but it would have helped people on property and new guys joining. I once saw all the meeting notes and legal docs and watermarked HA paperwork and everything, it was legit.
Fast forward they’re about to ink it and HAL management loses interest, and the guy who founded the whole thing moved on to a legacy. He tried his best.
Union guy at CPZ befriended HAL guy. Got talking and came up with a flow agreement. Worked on it back and forth for quite a while. Finally proposed it to the CPZ management, surprisingly they loved it. Several meetings were had and the plan was it was a genuine flow but HAL had influence in the CPZ interview process. I forget the details, but it would have helped people on property and new guys joining. I once saw all the meeting notes and legal docs and watermarked HA paperwork and everything, it was legit.
Fast forward they’re about to ink it and HAL management loses interest, and the guy who founded the whole thing moved on to a legacy. He tried his best.
06-23-2019, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by week
If we could put the compass/HAL thing to bed for eternity:
Union guy at CPZ befriended HAL guy. Got talking and came up with a flow agreement. Worked on it back and forth for quite a while. Finally proposed it to the CPZ management, surprisingly they loved it. Several meetings were had and the plan was it was a genuine flow but HAL had influence in the CPZ interview process. I forget the details, but it would have helped people on property and new guys joining. I once saw all the meeting notes and legal docs and watermarked HA paperwork and everything, it was legit.
Fast forward they’re about to ink it and HAL management loses interest, and the guy who founded the whole thing moved on to a legacy. He tried his best.
Union guy at CPZ befriended HAL guy. Got talking and came up with a flow agreement. Worked on it back and forth for quite a while. Finally proposed it to the CPZ management, surprisingly they loved it. Several meetings were had and the plan was it was a genuine flow but HAL had influence in the CPZ interview process. I forget the details, but it would have helped people on property and new guys joining. I once saw all the meeting notes and legal docs and watermarked HA paperwork and everything, it was legit.
Fast forward they’re about to ink it and HAL management loses interest, and the guy who founded the whole thing moved on to a legacy. He tried his best.
08-12-2019, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBat
It was real, but died for various reasons. Lots of people in building C saw various paperwork for it. Ultimately it didn’t make enough sense for Hawaiian or Compass.
Thats why nobody here at Hawaiian knows about that fantasy flow, funny
how people made up just because a lot of FOs got picked up at a point of time also most of them were also from the islands.
Anybody can use word and make it look like something official for that matter of creating rumors.
For my fellow former compass brothers and sisters I do wish this good news come in sooner than later. I really did enjoy working with all of you there and you guys deserve nothing else than a big good news.
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