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Originally Posted by rvr350
(Post 346430)
Well, as a former redheaded stepchild that escaped the gauntlet, I'd say the above comment is far in between. I think the sentiment is that, the senior guys sold the junior guys out, and now the whole group accepts the fact that there's 1 more regional feeder than they'd like. They may not say it in front of you, but that's how most of them feel.
As a stepchild in the nwa system, don't expect any "Attaboy" from a mainline DH crewmember, don't expect the gate agent to show up after you call them for the 10th time. 90% the mainline folks you work with will be professional, and then once in a while, someone will ask you, "When is NWA gonna sell Compass?" Don't take offense, it truly takes time to get used to the system. Be nice to the folks you work with, because you'll be under the watchful eyes of a lot of envious mainline folks that perhaps know someone that lost their jobs because of CP. It's always an exciting time for a start-up company, and try to enjoy it as much as you can! Good luck. Their not only hurting CPS's operations, but NWs. Who lost their jobs because of CPS? |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 346418)
While i agree it sucks that there is a reduction in mainline flying, isnt it our own faults at Mainline that it is this way? Compass was started prior to me coming to NWA so i wasnt here when the whole thing got started, however i did come from a company that the mainline guys looked down upon us at my regional. I will be the first to tell you that that does Nothing to correct what is wrong in this industry. The mainline carriers are Completely responsible for letting the cats of the bag. Now is the time to to try and catch that cat and put it back in the bag. All Jets should be mainline jets regardless of the size. If that would have happened in the first place this industry would be in a much better place. Why farm out OUR flying? Lets fix the problems instead of being ****ed at one another. IF mainline guys want to be ****ed at someone be ****ed at ourselves or mgmt for letting it happen or not stopping it in the first place. Bring the regional guys on at the bottom of the lists that would be good for everyone, it would give regional guys career advancement as well as be job protection for mainline guys. Not to mention we could bring those regional wages up while doing that. thats just my couple pennies worth, carry on.
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Originally Posted by rvr350
(Post 346430)
I think the sentiment is that, the senior guys sold the junior guys out, and now the whole group accepts the fact that there's 1 more regional feeder than they'd like. They may not say it in front of you, but that's how most of them feel.
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
(Post 346413)
One more thing....why such hatred for Compass when you have Mesaba flying the same seat configuration????Are we showing a little prejudice or what?:rolleyes:
And come on, Compost? :rolleyes: I bet you made that up all on your own. NWA pilots should be upset at their union representation if they don't like it, not Compass pilots. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg52
(Post 346324)
Just dont expenct hugs and kisses from NWA folks. Dont care what BS they fed you, you are flying our routes! Example: There used to be 5 flts from DTW- DFW, Airbus and -9s. Now 4 flts, and 3 are Compost. Dont like the words....Tough sh!t. The truth! BTW, that was alot of crap when the ALPO mag, a couple of months ago on the cover stated, "NWA PIlots Embrace Compost". Haven't talked to anyone who "embraces" you.
Make sure you check your facts. DTW-DFW is operated by Mesaba not COMPASS. Are you a 63% or the 37%. Not our Fault that YOU created us to have jobs for your furloughed people, and almost no one took the job. |
Originally Posted by aircraftdriver
(Post 346438)
As a CPS guy, I would say to you that we should be brought on via DOH.
The closest you could get would be brought over and put at the bottom which would be better for you right? Its that or wait maybe 30 months and flow over and be further down the list by that point, thats if NWA doesnt furlough before that point and bump you out before you get the Opportunity to flow up. Not to mention all NWA pilots are senior to you under the current agreement anyway, if you flow up where do you go? Heres a hint its not DOH ;) |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 346541)
Thats funny and Wont happen, look at the mess with the merger SLI. Nor do i think it should happen that way. We had the first Mesaba flow through in my class, he had been with mesaba since the mid 90's do you think that you should be in front of him after he waited for his flow through? You're at a regional be realistic, there is NO WAY you would be brought on by DOH in the event that NWA brought you guys over. Compass was started and allowed pretty much only for the job protection of NWA mainline pilots. If the E175 was brought onto mainline to begin with do you think you would be flying it? Look i came from a regional i know how it is and even i am realistic enough to know that would never happen the way you fantasize about. ;) I am a NWA guy trying to be on yall's side but if you guys have unrealistic desires like you presented i could see why some Mainline guys get pisy with you. Lets try and keep it from getting to that point any more than it already is.
The closest you could get would be brought over and put at the bottom which would be better for you right? Its that or wait maybe 30 months and flow over and be further down the list by that point, thats if NWA doesnt furlough before that point and bump you out before you get the Opportunity to flow up. Not to mention all NWA pilots are senior to you under the current agreement anyway, if you flow up where do you go? Heres a hint its not DOH ;) That is something alot of pilots I have spoken to are ****ed off. NWA has been interviewing guys with less expirience that what they have. NWA pilots are always upset about something. Whether it be a red book green book issue. The pay hit that NWA took Id be ****ed off to but just not towards another pilot that had nothing to do with anything. |
Any NWA pilot that has issues needs to get over themselves. Too bad and you are too junior on the DC9 to be taken seriously.
This is the company culture and it is a positive direction for the airline. |
Originally Posted by bohicagain
(Post 346601)
We dont all think that way DOH will never work. That is something that is VERY unrealistic. However I will say that the top 100 on the Compass seniority have plenty of TPIC to be eliglbe to be hired by NWA.
That is something alot of pilots I have spoken to are ****ed off. NWA has been interviewing guys with less expirience that what they have. NWA pilots are always upset about something. Whether it be a red book green book issue. The pay hit that NWA took Id be ****ed off to but just not towards another pilot that had nothing to do with anything. |
Originally Posted by downinthegroove
(Post 346606)
Any NWA pilot that has issues needs to get over themselves. Too bad and you are too junior on the DC9 to be taken seriously.
This is the company culture and it is a positive direction for the airline. |
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