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Rightseat Ballast 04-24-2008 10:27 AM

How are things at Compass?
 
Hey Compass pilots: How are things going over there, now that the first months are behind you and some of the bugs as well? I'm not really looking for hiring type info, but more like state-of-the-company info. Any start up issues with the 175's? NW guys treating you well?

Schwartz 04-24-2008 10:36 AM

I really don't have many complaints. There's been a few bugs. Many have been worked out and a few have not. Airplane seems reliable. I have not had any problems from NWA guys. I like CPS but then again I came from TSA.

Spooled 04-24-2008 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast (Post 372667)
NW guys treating you well?

NW guys are more than thrilled to see the E175 taking their DC9 routes and doing it at $20/hr. REAL HAPPY.

vonerotate 04-24-2008 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 372680)
NW guys are more than thrilled to see the E175 taking their DC9 routes and doing it at $20/hr. REAL HAPPY.

Except for a very small number, the Northwest pilots are very good to Compass pilots. Northwest pilots don't like Compass but MOST are very professional and don't hold it against individual compass pilots (most understand that we are all just trying to get a mainline job like they were once). I have heard from many NWA pilots that they would like to see the E-jets brought into mainline and the compass pilots right along with them. Don't think that anyone, other that managment, would be unhappy with that.

Schwartz 04-24-2008 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 372680)
NW guys are more than thrilled to see the E175 taking their DC9 routes and doing it at $20/hr. REAL HAPPY.

I agree. I would have voted NO. CPS is mostly Airbus routes. NWA pilots negotiated the pay rates at CPS.

NWA has better scope language than Delta. Hopefully some of it will end up in the new Delta CBA.

Tinpusher007 04-24-2008 12:54 PM

I would like to add that Im sure alot of 9 drivers are not happy at all to see us and Compass flying alot of their routes. However, 99% of NWA pilots that I have dealt with have been nothing short of professional with me and more than accomodating in getting me to work or home. I even had one tell me that he agrees that the 9's need to be parked and that we should make more at XJ and CZ to fly the 76 seaters. I wish the best for those guys post merger and that they get their much deserved pay increases and improvements to their working conditions.

veee 04-24-2008 02:16 PM

Interview
 
I have an interview SCH for May any insight would be appreciated.

bohicagain 04-24-2008 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 372680)
NW guys are more than thrilled to see the E175 taking their DC9 routes and doing it at $20/hr. REAL HAPPY.

so far most of the pilots have had to endure 24 bucks first year pay for 5-6 months and then CA pay, isn't Pinnacle 2nd year FO pay 24 bucks?? with no end in sight?

higney85 04-24-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 372927)
so far most of the pilots have had to endure 24 bucks first year pay for 5-6 months and then CA pay, isn't Pinnacle 2nd year FO pay 24 bucks?? with no end in sight?


Yea on a 8yr old contract. Don't pick a fight when PNCL was not even mentioned in any part of the initial thread or reply. On a professional level you are showing your Union feelings and knowledge base on the issue. Just leave it out of the thread. :rolleyes:

You didn't see anyone come on here and drop the word "Flowthrough" or ask why compass was started, especially with the "no furlough" clause in the Delta/Northwest merger CBA and the 50+ -9's said to be parked. The mainline pilots will have seats regardless.

On a positive I think the paintjob and the plane look very nice!

Schwartz 04-24-2008 08:14 PM

higney,

I'm pretty sure bohicagain was ripping on the poster, not the company. I really hope this doesn't become a my overgrown RJ is better than yours thread.

higney85 04-25-2008 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 373228)
higney,

I'm pretty sure bohicagain was ripping on the poster, not the company. I really hope this doesn't become a "my overgrown RJ operator is better than yours" thread.

I just want peace. I have nothing positive to say about my operator other than we have some pretty solid business AT THE MOMENT. I wish all the CZ guys the best but have a few ideas on where they could all be in a couple years and I think scope will control their future.

bohicagain 04-25-2008 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 373228)
higney,

I'm pretty sure bohicagain was ripping on the poster, not the company. I really hope this doesn't become a my overgrown RJ is better than yours thread.

Bingo... nothing against Pinnacle guys just that guy who decided to share his thoughts....

P.S. I used to be a Pinnacle FO who left because I could not afford to feed my family on 2nd and even 3rd year pay. I walked in several picketing events, but I fear that management will take forever until something is signed and I don't think you will get released for a possible strike.

Dark Knight 04-28-2008 12:34 PM

What's the projected hiring for compass in the next 12 months? With what times as requirements? Just shooting from the hip that is...

UnlimitedAkro 04-28-2008 12:54 PM

Last I heard they are shooting for 360 pilots. Last class seniority numbers were around 230 I think. So they need at least another 130 pilots by the end of this year.

ATP mins are still the mins, though I have heard of people getting hired under that.

JungleBus 04-29-2008 05:14 AM

Actually ATP mins for hiring are in the ALPA contract. The company hired a few under ATP mins, the union protested, and the company agreed to stick to the mins. Might make it hard to find enough pilots...maybe we could parlay the shortage into a LOA bringing up 1st yr pay or otherwise improving the contract :).

nwa757 04-29-2008 06:24 AM

A few Compass QOL questions... do you guys stay at the same hotels as NWA? Downtown locations?

What are the lines like? Trips? 4 days, day trips? What are the average days off for lineholders so far?

When do you expect online trip trading to start?

What % of captains do you think will stick around, and how many hope to flow up?

How about mx? Contracted or in house?

Thanks guys.

Flitestar 04-29-2008 07:05 AM

I'll add one more:

Do you really need 1000ME to get an interview?

Let 'em roll...

UnlimitedAkro 04-29-2008 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Flitestar (Post 375802)
I'll add one more:

Do you really need 1000ME to get an interview?

Let 'em roll...

Many of people have been getting hired with less than 1000 hours multi. Not just a few. Many. I know of people who got hired with 500 hours multi. I know dozens of people who got hired in the 600-800 hour range. I dont think that 1000 hours multi is a requirement anymore.

aircraftdriver 04-29-2008 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 375770)
A few Compass QOL questions... do you guys stay at the same hotels as NWA? Downtown locations?

The hotels are different from what I've seen. Most of the hotels we stay at are nice but are isolated from civilization.

What are the lines like? Trips? 4 days, day trips? What are the average days off for lineholders so far?

Depends on the base, seat and staffing. Some months there is a good mix, other months not so much. Day trips go up to 19 days off. Reserve/Build up 11 days off. 13-14 days off is an average I'd say.

When do you expect online trip trading to start?

PBS is in testing phase now. Operational probably in a few months. Flica is in the works but it's not yet official. Hoping for Flica by EOY 2008.

What % of captains do you think will stick around, and how many hope to flow up?

Since nobody is hiring, I'd say everyone will be sticking around except for you typical attrition.

How about mx? Contracted or in house?

We have both. Most of the contracted MX guys are solely dedicated to CPS. I think we use the Embraer BNA for anything heavy.

Thanks guys.

Note: replies in the text above.


I think CPS is a good place to be so long as the DAL/NW merger works out well.


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