Mesaba+Compass = Comsaba or Mespass
 

I talked to our captain in Jail and he said he heard from his cellmate that this deal has happened and to be announced soon.

Thats the rumour but we all now how rumours are, what are your thoughts on if it is true though, you are now looking at an airline with 49 saabs, 17 200's, 36 900's and 36 175's = 138 planes

hmm, can you say sell off? It wont be to republic either becuase they are already too big. I say they just sell them back to MAir Holdings.

I think the 4 regionals left in the DCI are going to be 4 holding companies. Republic, Mesaba/Compass, Pinnacle Corp., and SkyWest Inc.

Those 4 holding companies will buy the remaining regionals out there (comair) and control who flies what.

good stuff.......

I have yet to see one rumor from jumpseat gossip come true.

really? you must not have many jumpseaters.

Is this the same captain that was running around naked last week..?

Either that or most pilots and jumpseaters are full of $hit. Usually, rumors are just someone's wish list.

Actually the truth is we are both under the Mesaba Compass Holdings, Inc.

So...no more rumor.

P.S. Just another 'Flip-Flop' summer.

Don't know about the rest of you but I find rumors that I hear in jail generally come true.:p

The whole Mesaba Compass rumor is getting old. I find it hilarious that someone said they are going to "sell off" mesaba and compass to somoene. That is like me trying to sell my gas guzzling SUV to a group of homeless people. WONT HAPPEN!! No one will buy them right now, not even if they were free.

So here are the real facts, you heard it here first: Mesaba and Compass are going to put their differences aside first. They might start talking to each other. They will probably consider that the other exsits- and vice versa, and possibly agree that each has their own right to occupy the same building, and breathe the same air without starting terrible rumors about each other.

Once that is settled (and sit down for this one), Mesaba and Compass are going to combine their operating certificates and burn them together in the same fire to keep 2 or 3 homeless people warm in Minneapolis over the cold winter. That way, we all feel like we have contributed to some kind of good cause.

The secret is out. I can hear it echoing from the jumpseats already.

Or you could get a life. Rumors are not true.

Not sure what differences you are talking about?!? I dont know anyone at mesaba that has a problem with Compass and vice versa. In fact I cant recall a time when anyone at XJ said anything about Compass other than how nice it would be to fly the Ejet. So I guess I am confused as to what you are referring to.

I had a bunch of Compass guys buy me a beer the other day (I'm an xj fo), I too have only heard of nice things about compass (besides the normal airline problems). I think if we did come together and tried to survive on our own (unlikely at the moment to me, but hey I'll play along), we have all new, large, fuel saving planes, and new pilots (hint, hint, low wages). Why wouldn't we be a fairly big player in the proposed new regional world order talked about in the first post. P.S.- I'm a firm believer in not believing jumpseat gossip (I was expecting the delta-nwa merger every week for about 20 consecutive weeks, ha-ha), but if this idea is true, then compass please don't bring your study-at-home training, and flow through stuff with you. Besides that, I'm ok with you guys. There....you have the approval of a "Know nothin' " first year FO. Merger approved!

Many of the top seniority at Compass are former Mesaba pilots. There is absolutely NO wide spread animosity between Mesaba and Compass pilots. Period.

On a side note: It's pretty warm in MSP today... good thing I packed my flip flops :D

Add this to the rumor mill...Mesaba and Compass will merge, then that combined carrier will merge with Northwest so Northwest has more people and power to bargin with in this Delta merger. Heard it from a friend's friend's boyfriend's mom's sister in law's twice removed cousin's buddy from college!

Wow most of these mesaba/compass rumors are funny :rolleyes:

I keep reading these rumors on this forum that Mesaba and Compass will be sold, but I have not read any evidence to this. NWA will not be selling Mesaba anytime soon. In a few years maybe. Compass was a creation by NWA pilots from what I have gathered. The NWA rep at the joint NWA/DAL merger presentation said Mesaba and Compass will continue business as usual.

Also no one at XJ talks about Compass much. Not really interested that much because there are so many things going on at XJ right now.

As far as I know, Compass and Mesaba people don't say anything about each other. We go to work, we do our jobs, we go home. Compass/Mesaba merger could happen (because anything can in this industry), however more than likely it will not.

I'm SKW and I personally was planning on flying purple RJs. Look how that turned out :p

Rumors are fun, but if you put any faith in them you will inevitably be disappointed

Usually rumors are just that, rumors. But once in a while some rumors do come true. ie., NWA Delta merger rumor was going around for over a year and no one seriously believed it will actually happen until it actually happened (officially not yet approved but in every aspect it looks like it is going forward).

I do not see Compass merging with Mesaba because there are too many barriers to have that happen. For one, Mesaba has the protection against NWA pilot flow down, only the same number of Mesaba pilot who have flowed up can flow down to Mesaba, even then the seniority numbers of those Mesaba pilots who have flowed up remains vacant so no one is really displaced at Mesaba, where as at Compass, everyone can be displaced by NWA furloughees. Another is there are way too many senior pilots at Mesaba who will never agree to merging the seniority number with Compass unless Compass pilots are stapled at the bottom and I seriously doubt Compass pilots would go for that. Date of hire might work if certain conditions are met. This does not mean anything though, if the NWA management wants to merge Mesaba and Compass, it will happen no matter what. I have not heard any substantiated facts to this rumor so I am discounting it.

Even merging Mesaba and Compass based on date of hire would put all the Compass pilots near the bottom of a combined list. (fine for me they'd all end up below me) but I can't see most of those guys going for such an arangement.... But relative senoirity would give the top well almost everyone at Compass a nice windfall award that would not be very well taken here.

If we merge I can see 3 to 5 year fences so no Mesaba pilot or Compass pilot will get ****ed that someone else took their seat

I highly doubt that we will merge, that would make it harder to spin off Compass or Mesaba and keeping two separate certificates.

A rumor I heard is that NWA will sell Compass ala ASA to Skywest so they will get E175 and keep them separate and eventually bring some E175 to Skywest

Guys, Compass is using resources of mesaba until they can operate on their own.

I don't think there are any plans on operating "on their own." Compass is a virtual company. Almost everything is outsourced, from aircraft servicing to pilot training. It's rare to meet someone other than a crew-member who is actually employed by Compass. Compass was created as a result of NWA's desire to outsource flying during bankruptcy (the same reason Mesaba got -900s), it was not created to build an "airline."

Good lord. A thread about a merger that will never happen, and some are already throwing us under the bus. If we wanted to be at the bottom of the Mesaba list that's were we would have gone. You could have applied to Compass too.

I think you misunderstood the main content of my post. No one is attempting to throw you guys under the bus. We have nothing to gain by that. At any case don't take these posts too seriously. These are just speculations. I wrote that merger between Mesaba and Compass will not happen. Like you said, Compass is a virtual company and eveything is outsourced except pilots and FAs. What would be gained by merging Mesaba and Compass? Nothing that I can see from the NWA standpoint. BTW, Compass did offer me a job last year and I turned them down because I had already accepted an offer from Mesaba.

I should have added the more likely scenario is that Compass will be sold after the DAL/NWA merger to another carrier. This is the latest rumor I have heard while I was at the NWA/DAL joint merger presentation. But I do not believe it will happen anytime soon because NWA pilots want Compass to be around.