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flyguy94 09-13-2014 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Broncoav8r (Post 1726543)
Don't hold your breath for anything beyond what the other non-wholly owned carriers get.

What do they typically get?

Broncoav8r 09-13-2014 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by ACessential (Post 1726549)
Sure about that? We are dealing with TSH... My friend was at the schoolhouse recently and heard that rumor. Hope its not true I'm definitely a fan of AQP

Keep in mind the FSDO would have to approve it, and that would involve the creation of a complete training program from scratch and then the FSDO would have to review it. We are talking months of work, at a time when HQ needs about 2 hours more per day to get done what they already have on their plate.

djrogs03 09-13-2014 01:57 PM

I swore I heard at the last place I worked that all airlines had to switch to AQP within a certain time frame per FAA Regs

ACessential 09-13-2014 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1726552)
Why would they drop it and completely revert from a system that works and everyone else is trying to implement? And realistically how much shorter is non AQP? Not much. You should have been here when you had to do initial LOEs in BOTH seats, then we can talk about long but that's not the case anymore.

Its not that its shorter, its that it would free up sims because you would only go in once a year instead of every 6 months for recurrent. Anyways, I'm sure its just a crazy rumor started in the schoolhouse and there's not much validity to it.

PropDriver 09-13-2014 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1726178)
AA cities out of LAX. TUS, DEN, OKC, XNA, IAH, SAT, SAN, SMF, PDX, SEA, YVR, RNO, SJC, FAT, SFO, YEG.

Where are you getting your info? A search on a random day in June shows no Compass flights to any of those cities. Some don't have direct flights to LAX.

djrogs03 09-13-2014 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by PropDriver (Post 1726639)
Where are you getting your info? A search on a random day in June shows no Compass flights to any of those cities. Some don't have direct flights to LAX.

Internal company memo, which we shouldn't be sharing because AA hasn't announced some of these routes yet...

BlueMoon 09-13-2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by ACessential (Post 1726636)
Its not that its shorter, its that it would free up sims because you would only go in once a year instead of every 6 months for recurrent. Anyways, I'm sure its just a crazy rumor started in the schoolhouse and there's not much validity to it.

I still had to go every 6 months before my last company had AQP. 6 month was a LOFT.

Without AQP, our training problem would get worse. As you can't train to proficiency on a standard PC or Type ride, like there is on an MV. So more unplanned sims and rechecks. Especially if we get less experienced pilots.

Bzzt 09-13-2014 06:51 PM

Like someone else mentioned I believe an AQP program is a FAA mandate. I don't think Compass could go back to a traditional check ride system even if they wanted to.

MrMustache 09-13-2014 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1726643)
Internal company memo, which we shouldn't be sharing because AA hasn't announced some of these routes yet...

You mean the routes that Eagle, Mesa and Skywest ALREADY do for AA Or Mainline AA has done at one point? Since when does a regional shift entail an announcement?

BTW do we have 575 pilots yet?

conquestdz 09-13-2014 08:04 PM

I had the understanding that the end goal of the AQP program was to move to an 18 month cycle eventually. There would be two 6 month recurrent events and then what we do now as a 12 month would be at 18 months. The 9 month ground school would still be in there every year too.


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