The problem is that we complain and complain and complain but do nothing about the situation and yet we expect things to miraculously change, that's the definition of Insanity my friends. It's modern day slavery they are trying to make things as difficult as possible so that you either quit or go insane. This profession has been destroyed at the regional level. There is no adequate compensation which is ok as long as there is quality of life (multiple days off, commutable lines, productive trips). Now we gave in to more concessions and our quality of life is been taken away. Yet there's plenty of mediocre 2nd and 3rd class pilots getting hire by the regionals cause this companies need to fill the seats. Here's the F*&K part about this, the FAA implemented all this changes (1500hrs, 117 rules) all to help place experience and well rested pilots in the cockpit. I wonder what they'll do when a plane slam into the ground cause by pilot error. Always have a backup plan.

 

It's not even remotely close to slavery. Everyone in this industry chose to be in it and chooses to remain in it. Take your idiotic hyperbole elsewhere.

 

I think you posted in the wrong thread.

 

Looks like he is posting it in every thread.

 

As annoying as he is being with that stupid post, why exactly is it in the wrong thread?

 

 

Well will see. I called them and they gave me the code for the delta project rate, whatever that means. It was 63 a night and didn't say anything about breakfast. I guess will see...

 

It very much is in the wrong thread. CPZ did not take concessions of pay/work rules in the contract that was decided by binding arbitration and was implemented last year.

 

I know it's been addressed, just looking for the most current info, If hired, when can a new greenie like myself expect to get a start date and how long is training? i.e. how much self-study, onsite, sim? I know there is no clear answer and exact dates. Just wanting to get an idea how it works now. Thank you!

 

Huh?

You think hiring a pilot with 250 hours is safer than hiring that same pilot when they have 1500 hours? I don't know about you, but most people become better at something the more hours they put in.

On top of that you think opening up hiring to 250 hour pilots, instead of leaving it at ATP minimums, will lead to you getting better pay and QOL?

You believe a 16 hour/8 leg day after 8 hours of sleep with a 4am report, is safer than a 9 hour/6 leg day after 10 hours of rest with a 4am report?

What world are you living on?