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404yxl 05-23-2015 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1887563)
Ok, so to be clear here (it's the weekend so I won't have a chance to reply to Compass until Tuesday) I am aware it's best doing that form one month into the next, perfectly understandable and reasonable. The main concern, though, is it something that a guy could expect to be getting in the left seat within a year, considering attrition, etc. (and I know that nothing is certain in the airline industry, ie. flow / attrition).

Reason I ask about each regional separately is due to the differing scheduling models between them and me not having any contact in the C48 to talk to about it personally.

Finally, what is first year FO and CA pay like, respectively?

Do you have any 121 or 135 time? If not, then you can't do it 1 year. It will take a minimum of 1.5 years to start and get 1000 hours.

Poopchute701 05-23-2015 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1887563)
Ok, so to be clear here (it's the weekend so I won't have a chance to reply to Compass until Tuesday) I am aware it's best doing that form one month into the next, perfectly understandable and reasonable. The main concern, though, is it something that a guy could expect to be getting in the left seat within a year, considering attrition, etc. (and I know that nothing is certain in the airline industry, ie. flow / attrition).

Reason I ask about each regional separately is due to the differing scheduling models between them and me not having any contact in the C48 to talk to about it personally.

Finally, what is first year FO and CA pay like, respectively?

Hourly Rates of Pay
51-76 Seat Jet Aircraft Captains
Step 1/1/14 1/1/15 1/1/16 1/1/17 1/1/18 1/1/19
1 65.73 66.55 67.39 68.23 69.08 69.94
2 67.91 68.76 69.62 70.49 71.37 72.26
3 70.21 71.08 71.97 72.87 73.78 74.71
4 72.37 73.28 74.19 75.12 76.06 77.01
5 74.58 75.51 76.46 77.41 78.38 79.36
6 76.87 77.83 78.80 79.79 80.79 81.79
7 79.06 80.04 81.04 82.06 83.08 84.12
8 81.48 82.49 83.53 84.57 85.63 86.70
9 84.22 85.27 86.34 87.42 88.51 89.62
10 87.05 88.14 89.24 90.36 91.48 92.63
11 89.71 90.83 91.96 93.11 94.28 95.46
12 92.49 93.65 94.82 96.00 97.20 98.42
13 95.29 96.48 97.68 98.90 100.14 101.39
14 98.18 99.41 100.65 101.91 103.18 104.47
15 100.95 102.21 103.49 104.78 106.09 107.42
16 103.54 104.83 106.14 107.47 108.81 110.17
17 106.03 107.35 108.70 110.05 111.43 112.82
18 108.51 109.87 111.24 112.63 114.04 115.46

51-76 Seat Jet Aircraft First Officers
Step 1/1/14 1/1/15 1/1/16 1/1/17 1/1/18 1/1/19
1 25.22 25.54 25.86 26.18 26.51 26.84
2 36.64 37.10 37.56 38.03 38.51 38.99
3 38.98 39.47 39.96 40.46 40.97 41.48
4 40.57 41.08 41.59 42.11 42.64 43.17
5 41.61 42.13 42.66 43.19 43.73 44.28
6 42.63 43.16 43.70 44.24 44.80 45.36
7 43.60 44.14 44.70 45.25 45.82 46.39
8 44.48 45.04 45.60 46.17 46.75 47.33
9 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
10 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
11 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
12 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
13 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
14 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
15 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
16 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
17 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53
18 44.67 45.23 45.80 46.37 46.95 47.53

aviatorhi 05-23-2015 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1887575)
Do you have any 121 or 135 time? If not, then you can't do it 1 year. It will take a minimum of 1.5 years to start and get 1000 hours.

My good sir, I have well over 6000 hours of 121 time, in all 3 seats.

Poopchute, is it simply guarantee x hourly, or are there other "hidden" bits of income which come into play on the line towards the overall credit (please bear with me, I've never worked at any carrier which has "credit" time).

404yxl 05-23-2015 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1887579)
My good sir, I have well over 6000 hours of 121 time, in all 3 seats.

Poopchute, is it simply guarantee x hourly, or are there other "hidden" bits of income which come into play on the line towards the overall credit (please bear with me, I've never worked at any carrier which has "credit" time).

Good for you.

aviatorhi 05-23-2015 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1887584)
Good for you.

Yep it is, now are you done assuming?

404yxl 05-23-2015 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1887592)
Yep it is, now are you done assuming?

Assuming what? I asked if you had 1000 hours of 121 time. If you think that is assuming when asking for help, good luck in this industry. Great start.

Petethedog 05-23-2015 09:16 PM

I have an offer at Compass and I am hoping some of you that are there can help me understand a couple things (I am new to the regionals).
My priority is QOL. So, I am hoping that the attrition and growth forecast to occur in the next year will get me into a line-holder with decent seniority reasonably quick. But, hearing talk of reduced efficiency trips has me wondering. Is there a requirement to reach a certain number of hours each month (if so how many)? How does this affect the prospective QOL'er? If there was a requirement to reach 75 hours each month, I am thinking the ideal line would be something with 4 3-day trips that credit ~20 hours each (even if all weekends). Is my line of thinking sorely in need of a reality check, and/or am I in the neighborhood of possibility? FWIW, looking to be based in LAX. Thanks all...
One more question: I have a class in a couple weeks and have not received any materials (limitations, memory items, etc.)... Don't they send this stuff out in advance?

404yxl 05-23-2015 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Petethedog (Post 1887599)
My priority is QOL. So, I am hoping that the attrition and growth forecast to occur in the next year will get me into a line-holder with decent seniority reasonably quick. But, hearing talk of reduced efficiency trips has me wondering. Is there a requirement to reach a certain number of hours each month (if so how many)? How does this affect the prospective QOL'er? If there was a requirement to reach 75 hours each month, I am thinking the ideal line would be something with 4 3-day trips that credit ~20 hours each (even if all weekends). Is my line of thinking sorely in need of a reality check, and/or am I in the neighborhood of possibility? FWIW, looking to be based in LAX. Thanks all...
One more question: I have a class in a couple weeks and have not received any materials (limitations, memory items, etc.)... Don't they send this stuff out in advance?

LAX will help for seniority.

However, Delta makes the schedules. We could suck one month and rock the next. Another regional could rock this month as suck the next.

The 175 is used on efficient routes though. An airline with 50 seat jets could be efficient, but chances are a 175 will be used better.

We are losing our ADTG which gave us at least 14 days off with a 76 hour line. Without it we can see 11 day off lines with 75 hours. Something to consider.

aviatorhi 05-24-2015 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1887596)
Assuming what? I asked if you had 1000 hours of 121 time. If you think that is assuming when asking for help, good luck in this industry. Great start.

I guess I was assuming that you looked at the position listed next to my name, my bad. One assumption led to another, etc.

In any case my question still stands... is that sort of schedule realistic after a year?

And is take home pay just guarantee x rate, or some other way of figuring it out?

Thanks.

Temocil27 05-24-2015 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1887634)
I guess I was assuming that you looked at the position listed next to my name, my bad. One assumption led to another, etc.

In any case my question still stands... is that sort of schedule realistic after a year?

And is take home pay just guarantee x rate, or some other way of figuring it out?

Thanks.

If you come here some of the new captains you'll fly with won't even know what a 727 is. Food for thought


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