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swoosh 07-17-2015 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 1931830)
Negative. They have not been full. Half. Some weeks less than half. One week had one.

What's a full class? Eight a week?

Two Kings 07-17-2015 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by piperpainter (Post 1931766)

Why not just raise first year pay for FOs? Aren't the teamsters suing Republic for doing basically the same thing?

bgmann 07-17-2015 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Two Kings (Post 1931932)
Why not just raise first year pay for FOs? Aren't the teamsters suing Republic for doing basically the same thing?

10 is considered full. The list I saw had a bunch of tens for planned classes. It was printed 7/17. But actual show was half on average or less from mid June on from there. If I remember right.

EuroMexPilot 07-17-2015 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Two Kings (Post 1931932)
Why not just raise first year pay for FOs? Aren't the teamsters suing Republic for doing basically the same thing?

The IBT is suing RAH for violating the status quo provisions both sides are supposed to be following during contract negotiations under the RLA. Beginning a new bonus or changing pay terms is not the status quo.
That being said, did ALPA agree with this bonus? Was there an LOA regarding it? Did the company violate any terms of our CBA by unilaterally offering a new hire bonus? These are questions I would love to hear from our MEC.
As a year 1 FO myself, I'm a little peeved to hear new hires are now gonna get a cool 10 g's while I struggle through year 1 pay again.

Edit: just got the MEC Hotline regarding this and their objection to it.
I certainly hope they don't just shake their fist in the air then curl their tails and walk away!

RomeoSierra 07-17-2015 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Two Kings (Post 1931932)
Why not just raise first year pay for FOs? Aren't the teamsters suing Republic for doing basically the same thing?

Easy answer. They can take away the 10k signing bonus as fast as they put it in effect. New pay rates require contract talks and can take awhile. And in the end we would probably end up loosing something for new pay rates.

Desert Sky 07-17-2015 05:29 PM

Does Compass accept part 135 TPIC time for upgrade requirements, similar to TSA for new-hires?

I know the FAR's allow either 1000 hours pt121 SIC time and/or pt135 PIC time to satisfy the upgrade requirement.

BeatNavy 07-17-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by RPJ80 (Post 1932019)
Does Compass accept part 135 TPIC time for upgrade requirements, similar to TSA for new-hires?

I know the FAR's allow either 1000 hours pt121 SIC time and/or pt135 PIC time to satisfy the upgrade requirement.

Not sure if you looked into it, but most 135 time doesn't count towards the requirement. Assuming you know 135.243.a.1 but I've seen a lot of people at my airline who think they are good to upgrade and then are unpleasantly surprised after being awarded an upgrade. We had to change our upgrade policy because so many people messed this up. "pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof"

Desert Sky 07-17-2015 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 1932035)
Not sure if you looked into it, but most 135 time doesn't count towards the requirement. Assuming you know 135.243.a.1 but I've seen a lot of people at my airline who think they are good to upgrade and then are unpleasantly surprised after being awarded an upgrade. We had to change our upgrade policy because so many people messed this up. "pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof"

My 135 TPIC time does meet the full regulatory requirements outlined in the FARs you listed. With that said, is the answer yes, Compass would accept 135 TPIC towards upgrade?

GoHomeLeg 07-17-2015 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by RPJ80 (Post 1932052)
My 135 TPIC time does meet the full regulatory requirements outlined in the FARs you listed. With that said, is the answer yes, Compass would accept 135 TPIC towards upgrade?

Yes they would (have in the past). However, you probably have missed the quick upgrade and it won't matter much.

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Desert Sky 07-17-2015 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg (Post 1932107)
Yes they would (have in the past). However, you probably have missed the quick upgrade and it won't matter much.

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Gotcha. How long would I be looking at then if I was a September new-hire you think (LAX)?


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