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Hacker15e 11-04-2015 03:57 AM

Well, looks like Delta is so upset with Compass' LAX performance (according to the Skywest thread...) that they're adding a new LAS to SJC route on 30 December.

DELTA Adds San Jose CA ? Las Vegas Route from late-Dec 2015 | Airline Route

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...alif/75090864/

SigHansen 11-04-2015 06:14 AM

Also...Delta is giving Compass some Republic airplanes.

pilotwithnoname 11-04-2015 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by SigHansen (Post 2005280)
Also...Delta is giving Compass some Republic airplanes.

Source?

RAH owns their planes. They are not Delta's to give away. Who keeps telling people otherwise?

grkero 11-04-2015 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname (Post 2005296)
Source?

RAH owns their planes. They are not Delta's to give away. Who keeps telling people otherwise?

I assumed it was meant to be funny.

404yxl 11-04-2015 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname (Post 2005296)
Source?

RAH owns their planes. They are not Delta's to give away. Who keeps telling people otherwise?

He was joking, but it doesn't really matter if RAH owns the planes or not. If they can't staff their airline, they will lose payments from their mainline partners and won't be able to pay their payments on the planes. Look up what happened to Mesa in 2009.

When it comes to owning airplanes, you are responsible for their payments. When you don't sell the tickets, you are dependent on your mainline partners paying you, so you can pay the lessor. If you fail to staff your airline to meet appropriate CPA requirements, your mainline partners can withhold payments, forcing you to declare bankruptcy or allowing them to hand the airplanes over to someone else.

SigHansen 11-04-2015 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by grkero (Post 2005323)
I assumed it was meant to be funny.

Oh? I was joking? Okay.

pilotwithnoname 11-04-2015 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 2005362)
He was joking, but it doesn't really matter if RAH owns the planes or not. If they can't staff their airline, they will lose payments from their mainline partners and won't be able to pay their payments on the planes. Look up what happened to Mesa in 2009.

When it comes to owning airplanes, you are responsible for their payments. When you don't sell the tickets, you are dependent on your mainline partners paying you, so you can pay the lessor. If you fail to staff your airline to meet appropriate CPA requirements, your mainline partners can withhold payments, forcing you to declare bankruptcy or allowing them to hand the airplanes over to someone else.

Right, but couldn't RAH just lease the planes or sell them off to whoever they want? Similar to how you can sell a car prior to paying it off, the purchaser would pick up payments.

Delta doesn't just have the ability to give the planes to who they want, unless they took over the payments.

CBreezy 11-04-2015 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname (Post 2005452)
Right, but couldn't RAH just lease the planes or sell them off to whoever they want? Similar to how you can sell a car prior to paying it off, the purchaser would pick up payments.

Delta doesn't just have the ability to give the planes to who they want, unless they took over the payments.

1) I heard Delta was the underwriter on the airplanes.

2) RAH doesn't own the airplane, the bank does. Just like when you buy or lease a car, you may be the principal operator but the bank holds the title. No one pays cash for new airplanes anymore.

Pilotandafisher 11-04-2015 03:29 PM

Does anybody know an easy/trustworthy way to look up AA flight loads other than the "oh so cute" MyID90 smiley faces?


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CAirBear 11-04-2015 04:08 PM

Honest question and I know it may sound crazy. Would you think it would be crazy to leave AWAC (2.5 years 90 from upgrade) for Compass? I currently commute from DSM to DCA.

I have 1700hrs 121 time. I know your not hiring DEC, but what would Compass be like for someone with my experience?

We have hardly upgraded anyone this year and word is were parking some old ones (4-5 planes) starting January. Lovely. This combined with a definite end to AA flying Feb 2018 (as of now) has me less than thrilled. Also completely over the East coast/NE flying. We literally don't go west of MEM.

I am a senior FO and get great schedules and we do have a good contract/benefits, so part of me thinks it's completely nuts to leave. However I'm really burnt out doing the same 10-12 cities and 8 overnights. For serving 70 cities it's petty crazy how little variety you see.

I don't know. Any thoughts? Thank you


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