Compass
 

So I was looking at Pilot Jobs and I was looking at the Compass page and it said that everyone gets typed in the ERJ-175, is that a true type rating or the "sic type" that most regionals give which mean nothing at all?

Also it said that once you have been with compass for 30 months, and are a captain you have the right to flow through to mainline. Has anyone done that yet? It seems like a good idea on paper, but for some reason I think its only on paper.

http://www.pilotjobs.com/airline/compass.html

Yes, it's an actual PIC type. That's why ATP mins are required.

No one has flowed up to Mainline yet, because when NWA was hiring no one met the requirements to do so.

Currently right now we have about 20 that are eligable to flow with more each month hitting the 30 month mark. by spring we should have around 100 or more guys ready to flow.

currently Delta took, I think around 9 guys in that flow agreement with mesaba so we have seen that the flow agreements are working wich is encouraging.:)

You don't need an ATP for a PIC type. Many pilots at the Commercial level have PIC types...just need to be an ATP to use it in 121.

All that matters is you need to meet ATP mins to get hired at Compass per the contract. New hires get a PIC 170/190 type rating AND an ATP if they do not already have their ATP rating.

is Compass going to be one of those companies that we will see continually hiring because their minimums are so high?? is it a good company go to if you do have ATP mins??

I don't know why so many pilots have a hard time understanding this concept. What do you got, 3 or 4 PIC type ratings before you evan had ATP mins?

Edited to add;

I could see CPZ doing it a while back for the purposes of when the upgrade was relatively quick, and YES, it's good to require a newhire to have an ATP, or ATP mins. Doesn't change the fact that a PIC type rating issuance ISN'T dependent on possessing an ATP, nor doing doing the ATP while on the type ride.

My buddy with 6,000 hours, multiple types, and an internal rec has been waiting for about 4 months to get a call from Compass... Good luck (not sarcasm).. I think things will start to improve soon, but our other friend at Delta told us that they are about 1,000 pilots fat right now, but don't want to furlough. Haven't confirmed this or not with other friends there. Another thing to consider, I'm not sure how the rules work, but the Delta guys have heard they can flow down to Compass if they do furlough. I'm not sure if they have to come from Compass or not.. Maybe someone in the know can shed some light on that.

Yup, 3 types...but I guess I'm just an Aero nerd for arguing it. But the type is 100% not why CPZ requires ATP mins.

As of now, if Delta furloughed the entire Compass pilot group could be flushed(except for maybe some managment pilots, I'm not sure) The reason this is possible is because when NWA was hiring not a single Compass pilot was eligible to flow up. In order for a Compass pilot to be protected from & senior to all flowbacks is for said pilot to bypass his/her one & only opportunity to flow to Mainline. Since no one has done so, no one is protected from flow backs.

That being said, Delta is overstaffed, but not nearly 1000 pilots overstaffed. As a matter of fact, Delta is closer to HIRING then we are furloughing.