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michaelscott 02-20-2010 04:24 PM

Compass worklife
 
Hey all,
I am a furloughed Comair FO and I see that Compass is hiring. Life was pretty crappy being on the bottom of the list, going back on reserve and getting my base changed from CVG to JFK. Your previous leader is now our current leader and where as I think he's doing a better job than I've seen in the past, I know he likes to run staffing tight. I am wondering if it is even worth it to apply to get back into this industry or is life just as s----
at Compass as it was at Comair.

Your input is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

atpcliff 02-21-2010 06:22 AM

Hi!

I'm not sure if Compass would be better than Comair for QOL, but Compass does have the flow through. On the other hand, if you're a new-hire now, by the time 3 years hits, the flow-through may be moot.

Also, just realized that with the flow through, and the recalls that will come in the next 3 years, I think Capt upgrade at Compass will be WAY faster than at Comair!

cliff
NBO

michaelscott 02-21-2010 01:27 PM

Hey Cliff,
Thanks for the info. That's exactly the only positive that I was thinking about was the flow through program and the faster upgrades. At least if I can get PIC time I am more marketable for the major's or a corporate job. The QOL is a big thing for me since I have a family now and really is the only thing from keeping me from jumping in feet first.

I appreciate the input!

Spoilers 02-21-2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by michaelscott (Post 767252)
Hey Cliff,
Thanks for the info. That's exactly the only positive that I was thinking about was the flow through program and the faster upgrades. At least if I can get PIC time I am more marketable for the major's or a corporate job. The QOL is a big thing for me since I have a family now and really is the only thing from keeping me from jumping in feet first.

I appreciate the input!

Hey! Might want to pose your question in the Comair thread, as there are a couple of Comair guys that made the jump over to Compass. The bottom line is, it's just another regional and again owned by Delta, but they are "hot" right now because they are one of the few hiring, the flow-through agreement and having an all 76-seater fleet. If you ask me, it is complete BS that Comair and Mesaba are furloughing and Compass is hiring. But that's how Delta operates, but I'm sure you knew that. One thing I have learned is to never chase an upgrade or pick an airline because of bases, because it can all change in a heartbeat.

CrippleHawk 02-21-2010 02:46 PM

The reason why compass is hot right now because they are the cheapest in terms of cost from MX (new planes) to labor and alot of other things. Keep in mind most employess will be there at 4 years at the most where Comair may have some guys there for at least 20 years if not greater. plus no offence to Comair but they have some of the oldest CRJs out there. Old planes tend to be a MX hog but that is my take.

Spoilers 02-21-2010 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by CrippleHawk (Post 767305)
The reason why compass is hot right now because they are the cheapest in terms of cost from MX (new planes) to labor and alot of other things. Keep in mind most employess will be there at 4 years at the most where Comair may have some guys there for at least 20 years if not greater. plus no offence to Comair but they have some of the oldest CRJs out there. Old planes tend to be a MX hog but that is my take.

Yes. I agree with you! We have a bunch of old and inefficient 50 seaters, along with a very senior and high cost pilot group compared to other DCI carriers. I still think it is crap that Mesaba & Comair is furloughing, so we can go apply at Compass, fly the same routes, in the same DCI system but at Year 1 pay again. I do hope the flow-through works for Compass, because it is a way for them to keep pilot costs low, but if it doesn't work or they get rid of it, their upgrade time and pilot costs will rise. I don't trust Delta and I don't believe a damn word R.A. is saying to their wholly-owneds. I've learned my lesson.

michaelscott 02-21-2010 09:28 PM

Yes I too have unfortunately learned my lesson about bases, it's all about where it's cost efficient for the company as they don't give a damn about their employees and how it affects them. As far as Delta goes, I wouldn't trust them with as far as I can throw them...as a Comair FO, we were definitely the red headed stepchild and they never let us forget it! Sometimes I think they made decisions on our block hours just to see how much they can ---- with us and than laugh at us. I know that sounds ridiculous, but that's how it feels.

I am definitely not thinking the grass is greener over at Compass and I don't want to start off at year 1 pay again, but the only regionals hiring are compass and colgan and well, enough said

atpcliff 02-22-2010 01:39 AM

Hi!

I wanted to go to either AWAC (based in ATW or ORD) or Comair in CVG. There were very nice back then....and now??? Didn't even apply to new AWAC hiring...sad!

cliff
NBO


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