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Burrito Bandit 10-11-2013 01:47 PM

Compass or ExpressJet - thoughts?
 
Looking at joining the 121 regional world and these two come recommended. Not really concerned about being hired and typed with the R-ATP, since I already hold an ATP, earned it the old school way with 1,500 hours. In addition to all the normal questions, I am basically looking to see how long reserve will last at either airline and which base is the junior base for that airline.

I'll be commuting out of FLL or PBI. An ATL base for XJ would make for an easy commute.

Thanks for your time.

New Guy 007 10-11-2013 05:29 PM

From what I have been through since I was hired just over a year ago, let me be the first to say, stay far far away from ExpressJet, This place hands down has got to the worst run airline or business I have been associated with, and I am not the only one that feels this way! Hope this helps.

ShyGuy 10-11-2013 05:35 PM

Hands down Compass. Current Compass CAs hired before Aug 2010 will all be at Delta through the flow starting now until all gone. You have guaranteed movement this way whereas ExpressJet is stagnant.

pete2800 10-11-2013 05:49 PM

Agreed. Given the option between the two, I'd pick Compass every time with the theoretical large-scale movement ahead. That, and they seem to be the only regional that has a semi-functional relationship with Delta at the moment. Comair and Pinnacle guys can tell you how bad it sucks when Delta has it in for a regional.

coryk 10-11-2013 06:07 PM

What about those two plus Skywest?

Trip7 10-11-2013 07:16 PM

Compass hands down, no questions asked.

Trip7 10-11-2013 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by coryk:1500410
What about those two plus Skywest?

Still Compass by a mile. Stay away from the mega regionals.

80ktsClamp 10-11-2013 07:48 PM

Compass compass compass compass compass, and did I mention Compass? Absolutely zero question there.

newarkblows 10-12-2013 04:21 AM

compass. XJT is being run by morons.

rightside02 10-12-2013 05:46 AM

Compass or ExpressJet - thoughts?
 
I would also have to say compass, but if the Fll / PBI commute is anything like TPA, than forget about it .....

That commute is tough .....

Good luck

Captain Tony 10-12-2013 07:10 AM

Compass. XJT is swirling the toilet bowl due to mismanagement and extremely high costs relative to the other regionals. 50 seaters (CRJ and ERJ) are going away over the next few years with no replacements slated. Displacements, downgrades and even furloughs loom on the horizon within a year or two. You will not hold ATL. ATL will most certainly continue to shrink and become more senior. It's already the most senior base on the CRJ side. Junior bases are DTW, IAD, MCI.

Compass will have a fast upgrade because the Delta flow throughs are about to leave. Despite being owned by Trans States, they haven't been bent over yet.

SiShane 11-13-2013 05:04 AM

Like others have stated...Compass would be wise because alot of movement is about to happen but no one has a crystal ball...do yr own research and go with what's best for you...

Squawk87 11-13-2013 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1500573)
Despite being owned by Trans States, they haven't been bent overyet.

It's the same management that created G7.

Famos_Amos 11-13-2013 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1500392)
From what I have been through since I was hired just over a year ago, let me be the first to say, stay far far away from ExpressJet, This place hands down has got to the worst run airline or business I have been associated with, and I am not the only one that feels this way! Hope this helps.

I'm sure your opinion stems from years of experience at other regionals, no?

Yazzoo 11-14-2013 12:04 AM

I'm currently one year in on the L-ASA side of things at Xjt and have an interview at CPZ in one week. Seriously considering leaving, but my conditions are:

1) Shorter upgrade time (3 years ideal)
2) Better management (can't stand how XJT runs things)
3) Hot flight attendants

Okay, I'll take 2 of those 3 if push comes to shove!

JungleBus 11-14-2013 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Yazzoo (Post 1519675)
I'm currently one year in on the L-ASA side of things at Xjt and have an interview at CPZ in one week. Seriously considering leaving, but my conditions are:

1) Shorter upgrade time (3 years ideal)
2) Better management (can't stand how XJT runs things)
3) Hot flight attendants

Okay, I'll take 2 of those 3 if push comes to shove!

1) IF Delta continues to hire for the next 3 years and IF they continue to honor flow commitments, upgrade at CPZ should run less than 3 years, more like 2. But of course history would suggest one not take those IFs for granted.
2) Trans States Holdings is freaking amateur hour, but they've mostly left us alone other than foisting our idiot DO on us. He's the former Trans States chief pilot, the one who tried to take off on one engine and then lied about it and got his license suspended for a month. He was also known for displaying all the IDs of the pilots he had fired in his office. A real gem, that one. Other than him, Compass management is reasonably competent for the regionals, and our chief pilots are actually fantastic. The system chief is the best I've ever worked under, and both assistant chiefs are good guys.
3) Sorry, you're gonna be disappointed. We have some fun crews, though, I've had some great overnights here.

RgrMurdock 11-14-2013 07:58 AM

MW was actually the DO of TSA. How's he doing over at compass? You guys can definitely keep him.


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