Mink

You didn't.

Toolish? Yeah.

But not snarky

pokey9554

I disagree. His/her post was riddled with situations that seem common in corporate aviation.

RI830

The grass is greener where you water it!!!

galaxy flyer

I never doubted that legacy jobs offered better pay and benefits, with the revenue stream and the strength of unions it couldn't be otherwise. Just about every other flying job will be ancillary to the primary focus of the business.

There are 12,000 bizjets active in the US meaning somewhere north of 24,000 pilots there. There is a retirement gulch here, too, and pilots will wind up there. Spoiler Alert! It isn't guaranteed for anyone to get hired into one of the those legacy jobs that work ten days for 200K--check the forums for regional CAs with nary a call for interview. I've been in this biz for 45 years and seen loads of great guys wind up in corporates, military technicians or out of the cockpit. I know guys with closets full of uniforms from past airlines still flying corporate, fractional jobs. I've recently seen guys walk off active duty into legacy jobs while others wait the call. It isn't guaranteed.

Back in the late '90s, I was a SQ/DO (XO, mil tech) watching guys leave the Reserves in a year because, "nothing can go wrong, hiring will go one forever, don't need the reserves and the retirement isn't worth the effort". Well, those guys were furloughed for years in many cases. When showed the UA 2000 contract, I was amazed at the terms (I was a former EAL MEC), well, the next quarter or two were full of red ink.

Anyone who is smug in the flying business is headed for a fall.

GF

Mink

No argument with the points being made.

The bedside manner struck me as needing some work.

Good luck to all of you.

galaxy flyer

Yes and no! A C-5 crew's bag drag was far worse than shuffling a half dozen bags around a Global's baggage compartment. It's not like anyone who expects pilots to load a B737. I never hand wrote an international flight on a Global or Challenger, as I did hundreds of times in the USAF. The rental car or limo always came out to the ramp in my corporate operation. We flew biz class mostly, I have 1.5 million Marriott points to vacation on and FF miles to fly with. I always had 12 hours or whatever was the planned crew rest. the schedule was flown as planned, if we were scheduled for 3 days off, that was 99.9% true and any change still required 12 hours prior notice. Good corporate ops are more and more common; bad ones exist because the Chief Pilot didn't know how to manage the pilots or how to "manage" the boss. Yes, I was one for years.

I was far more fatigued my first six months at Eastern than ever at a corporate. Used to was, reserve was a 24-hour a day deal. I got called at 2:30am one night to show for a 6am departure and I was 2:15 drive away. Thankfully that nonsense is gone.

GF

PS: Lears are notoriously crappy operations--usually owned by guys who struck it rich and thought they were suddenly Trump. Ego-fueled dumbkopfs

Cookie

I'm in the same but different category. 1.5 yrs or so from mil retirement will be 42 and on the fence. Really enjoy the unique flying of the corporate world (I have BD-700, GV experience) but know I have to find the right flight department that fits. Schedule flexibility or predictability is going to be a factor for me. Airlines appear to offer that but I hear stories and meet folks on the road that have different situations. Of course pay is a factor with multiple kids hitting college but that's why I work multiple jobs.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

dckozak

The OP mentioned NAI as the major or a corporate gig. The response after that post shows that most responders either failed to see this or (I seriously doubt) equate NAI with a major.
My take; if you can land a real major (DAL, AA, UA, HA, SWA, AK, FDX, or UPS), than take it. If it is anyone less, than you really need to balance the quality of the corporation/flight department and decide from there. If you haven't interviewed yet, than be sure to ask basic questions (for sure of the corporate gig) about QOL issues, time off, call out expectations, future pay after initial first year expectations, etc. With any airline, use this forum and dig out opinion from past posts.

ZapBrannigan

Or the Fortune #1 company that operates a fleet of 15-20 Learjet 40 and 45s with 60+ pilots...


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galaxy flyer

There is that, Zap.. But, an exception, I think, maybe I've been acquainted with, but not worked for, the type in my mind.

GF