Corporate vs airline / starting at age 50
07-02-2017, 06:14 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by cobalt650
Do companies respect the upward pressure on salaries due to the strong 121 hiring, or does that lag? Or does the attorney standard answer, "it depends," apply. Thanks!
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07-02-2017, 07:17 AM
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They're probably waiting out a significant event that results in higher oil prices, lower point in the economic cycle. If they can wait out the "hire till we furlough" mentality at the majors, they'll be in a better bargaining position.
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07-02-2017, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt650
Do companies respect the upward pressure on salaries due to the strong 121 hiring, or does that lag? Or does the attorney standard answer, "it depends," apply. Thanks!
07-03-2017, 03:44 AM
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Corporate Flight departments are beginning to feel the pressure of folks moving around within corporate aviation or to the major airlines. I work for a large corporate aviation department and it is hands down the best job I have had. We have a great mix of airlines pilots (Prior UsAir and Delta) and lower time corporate pilots.
Prior to my current position I flew for Jet Aviation (Managed aircraft) around the world and the flying was awesome. Got to see a lot of cool things and stay in some great locations. But, as others were saying; you were close to your phone. Not that we had many pop up trips, but you kinda had to stay available. Prior to that, I spent 12 years at the airlines.
My current employer is not like that. My disclaimer is I really don't want to work. I would rather stay around the house and do what I want to do. This job allows me time to be an effective father and have a life!
We avg 4-8 days a month of flying 5% of that flying is on a weekend. (Mainly Sunday evenings).
No Holidays and No sitting by a phone.
We have a schedule that is online.
70% of the trips are out and backs.
No loading of a bunch of bags [if any at all]
All passengers request are handled by our schedulers/dispatchers.
Pay and benefits are not to bad here. Although they could be a tad better and I think we will get there over the next 12 months or so.
Don't knock the Corporate life... The issue is getting to a good Corporate Company and gives you a good balance.
Keeping your hotel points is awesome too!
Prior to my current position I flew for Jet Aviation (Managed aircraft) around the world and the flying was awesome. Got to see a lot of cool things and stay in some great locations. But, as others were saying; you were close to your phone. Not that we had many pop up trips, but you kinda had to stay available. Prior to that, I spent 12 years at the airlines.
My current employer is not like that. My disclaimer is I really don't want to work. I would rather stay around the house and do what I want to do. This job allows me time to be an effective father and have a life!
We avg 4-8 days a month of flying 5% of that flying is on a weekend. (Mainly Sunday evenings).
No Holidays and No sitting by a phone.
We have a schedule that is online.
70% of the trips are out and backs.
No loading of a bunch of bags [if any at all]
All passengers request are handled by our schedulers/dispatchers.
Pay and benefits are not to bad here. Although they could be a tad better and I think we will get there over the next 12 months or so.
Don't knock the Corporate life... The issue is getting to a good Corporate Company and gives you a good balance.
Keeping your hotel points is awesome too!
07-05-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyitB
Corporate Flight departments are beginning to feel the pressure of folks moving around within corporate aviation or to the major airlines. I work for a large corporate aviation department and it is hands down the best job I have had. We have a great mix of airlines pilots (Prior UsAir and Delta) and lower time corporate pilots.
Prior to my current position I flew for Jet Aviation (Managed aircraft) around the world and the flying was awesome. Got to see a lot of cool things and stay in some great locations. But, as others were saying; you were close to your phone. Not that we had many pop up trips, but you kinda had to stay available. Prior to that, I spent 12 years at the airlines.
My current employer is not like that. My disclaimer is I really don't want to work. I would rather stay around the house and do what I want to do. This job allows me time to be an effective father and have a life!
We avg 4-8 days a month of flying 5% of that flying is on a weekend. (Mainly Sunday evenings).
No Holidays and No sitting by a phone.
We have a schedule that is online.
70% of the trips are out and backs.
No loading of a bunch of bags [if any at all]
All passengers request are handled by our schedulers/dispatchers.
Pay and benefits are not to bad here. Although they could be a tad better and I think we will get there over the next 12 months or so.
Don't knock the Corporate life... The issue is getting to a good Corporate Company and gives you a good balance.
Keeping your hotel points is awesome too!
Prior to my current position I flew for Jet Aviation (Managed aircraft) around the world and the flying was awesome. Got to see a lot of cool things and stay in some great locations. But, as others were saying; you were close to your phone. Not that we had many pop up trips, but you kinda had to stay available. Prior to that, I spent 12 years at the airlines.
My current employer is not like that. My disclaimer is I really don't want to work. I would rather stay around the house and do what I want to do. This job allows me time to be an effective father and have a life!
We avg 4-8 days a month of flying 5% of that flying is on a weekend. (Mainly Sunday evenings).
No Holidays and No sitting by a phone.
We have a schedule that is online.
70% of the trips are out and backs.
No loading of a bunch of bags [if any at all]
All passengers request are handled by our schedulers/dispatchers.
Pay and benefits are not to bad here. Although they could be a tad better and I think we will get there over the next 12 months or so.
Don't knock the Corporate life... The issue is getting to a good Corporate Company and gives you a good balance.
Keeping your hotel points is awesome too!
07-06-2017, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt650
Sounds like you've found a Home! Do you have significant duties outside of flying? Training, Safety, Operations oversight, etc? Or an expectation to be in the office when not flying? Thanks much.
We go to recurrent every 6 months on our aircraft. (We are not dual qualified here, you only fly your type)
International Procedures Recurrent is required every 24 Months
No expectation to be in the office unless you have some required training that has to be done from an office computer or you need to complete your expense report.
Good People here too. No Micromanaging of your time. If you get your stuff done, you won't hear a peep from either of the CP's or Aviation Executive.
Best Luck,
07-07-2017, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyitB
There are no real duties outside of what you need to do to remain current. For Example, we are Level 3 (I think) IS-BAO certified so we have to do like 8 classes a year. "Pilot Fatigue, CRM.." stuff like that.
We go to recurrent every 6 months on our aircraft. (We are not dual qualified here, you only fly your type)
International Procedures Recurrent is required every 24 Months
No expectation to be in the office unless you have some required training that has to be done from an office computer or you need to complete your expense report.
Good People here too. No Micromanaging of your time. If you get your stuff done, you won't hear a peep from either of the CP's or Aviation Executive.
Best Luck,
We go to recurrent every 6 months on our aircraft. (We are not dual qualified here, you only fly your type)
International Procedures Recurrent is required every 24 Months
No expectation to be in the office unless you have some required training that has to be done from an office computer or you need to complete your expense report.
Good People here too. No Micromanaging of your time. If you get your stuff done, you won't hear a peep from either of the CP's or Aviation Executive.
Best Luck,
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07-24-2017, 10:26 AM
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Don't mean to hijack the OP but I'm in the same boat with 1 or 2 major differences and I'm interested to hear some opinions. So here it goes....
34 years old. Capt at a fortune 200 company flying a G550. Total compensation package of about 205/yr. of which about 150K in salary and the rest in bonus and stock, and 5% pension. Fly about 50% domestic and 50% Intl averages about 14 days per month, with no real pop up trips. And I'd like to think I'm on a management track between 5-10 years. My primary interests are Fedex or UPS if I were to go airlines.
Thanks for the input.
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34 years old. Capt at a fortune 200 company flying a G550. Total compensation package of about 205/yr. of which about 150K in salary and the rest in bonus and stock, and 5% pension. Fly about 50% domestic and 50% Intl averages about 14 days per month, with no real pop up trips. And I'd like to think I'm on a management track between 5-10 years. My primary interests are Fedex or UPS if I were to go airlines.
Thanks for the input.
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07-24-2017, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DSflyer05
Don't mean to hijack the OP but I'm in the same boat with 1 or 2 major differences and I'm interested to hear some opinions. So here it goes....
34 years old. Capt at a fortune 200 company flying a G550. Total compensation package of about 205/yr. of which about 150K in salary and the rest in bonus and stock, and 5% pension. Fly about 50% domestic and 50% Intl averages about 14 days per month, with no real pop up trips. And I'd like to think I'm on a management track between 5-10 years. My primary interests are Fedex or UPS if I were to go airlines.
Thanks for the input.
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34 years old. Capt at a fortune 200 company flying a G550. Total compensation package of about 205/yr. of which about 150K in salary and the rest in bonus and stock, and 5% pension. Fly about 50% domestic and 50% Intl averages about 14 days per month, with no real pop up trips. And I'd like to think I'm on a management track between 5-10 years. My primary interests are Fedex or UPS if I were to go airlines.
Thanks for the input.
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