Seeking Your Corporate Part 91 Experiences
#21
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: BD-700A
Posts: 210
They offered 3 weeks to start at my last 2 employers. I countered at 4 and got it approved almost immediately. Not sure where your company's staffing levels are at however......
#23
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 610
Do those vacation days count as RONs? I've heard of many that don't so if you take 3 weeks off you'll make up for those days taken off by working more in the following time. Ex.. Take 3 weeks off, now work 21 days when you'd normally work 10.
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#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 945
We start w 21 days vacation, at 5 years on board it bumps to 28 days. There’s no “punishment” for taking vacation, you’re off the hook those days and no payback required. We try to work it out amongst the other pilots to avoid everyone being gone at once. Approval is up to the CP but it’s usually not an issue.
#25
We did 3 weeks up to 10 years, then 4 weeks. Every month each pilot had 7 “hard days off” which were additional to vacation scheduled. One was flown home to meet vacation days scheduled. Each trip had additional post trip off days, up to 7 days, but usually 3-5 days and dependent on trip length.
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#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: AA TBD
Posts: 64
Two-hour call between 7-5 weekdays and varies with the weekend schedule. Basically the company tracks total days worked and weekend days worked and tries to keep everyone even by month and year. Goal is 13 days worked (not RONs). They try their best to give you ONE weekend off a month. Sometimes that doesn’t always happen. Coming in days prior to trip plan for international trip not counted towards days worked.
Zero hard days off. No more than two pilots off at any time (which sucks when we staggered thru recurrent).
First five years... 14 days vacation plus 5 flex days to make up for the holidays you miss. First come-first serve. Vacations don’t go against your days worked unlike the 121 world. But like the 121, dropping a vacation day with a trip on schedule will be honored and the trip will be reassigned. This will happen too if you’re trip touches BOTH weekend days (only one and you’re still flying).
In August, I was not used the first week, then took a week vacation then stuck with two six-day trips back to back so everyone’s days were even. Nearly always you will be scheduled you to fly the day before your vacation starts. Good chance you’ll be assigned a 0600L departure the morning after your vacation. So you often can’t drink the evening of your last day of vacation.
Zero hard days off. No more than two pilots off at any time (which sucks when we staggered thru recurrent).
First five years... 14 days vacation plus 5 flex days to make up for the holidays you miss. First come-first serve. Vacations don’t go against your days worked unlike the 121 world. But like the 121, dropping a vacation day with a trip on schedule will be honored and the trip will be reassigned. This will happen too if you’re trip touches BOTH weekend days (only one and you’re still flying).
In August, I was not used the first week, then took a week vacation then stuck with two six-day trips back to back so everyone’s days were even. Nearly always you will be scheduled you to fly the day before your vacation starts. Good chance you’ll be assigned a 0600L departure the morning after your vacation. So you often can’t drink the evening of your last day of vacation.
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 610
Vacations don’t go against your days worked unlike the 121 world. But like the 121, dropping a vacation day with a trip on schedule will be honored and the trip will be reassigned. This will happen too if you’re trip touches BOTH weekend days (only one and you’re still flying).
#28
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: AA TBD
Posts: 64
Isn't the point of vacation to get away from work? This sounds like the only thing you vac does is protect your days from being called in. You still have to make up for those days taken off by working more after?! An office worker who takes 3 weeks off doesn't have to make up for those 3 weeks by working weekends and overtime, why should pilots? If that's how I'm interpreting it...
Exactly. Our dispatcher gets 8 hard days off a month, 14 days vacay and 12 paid holidays. Hence why some of us are looking elsewhere.
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#29
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: BD-700A
Posts: 210
Do those vacation days count as RONs? I've heard of many that don't so if you take 3 weeks off you'll make up for those days taken off by working more in the following time. Ex.. Take 3 weeks off, now work 21 days when you'd normally work 10.
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#30
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 131
That's the reason why I've never seriously considered Part 91 flying unless it's for a large company like Coca Cola Or Walmart that have a scheduled flight department.
Flying for some guy who thinks that he-who-has-the-money-makes-the-rules no thanks.
I'd like some protection from regs, OpSpecs, GOM and oh yeah..a decent Chief Pilot.
Flying for some guy who thinks that he-who-has-the-money-makes-the-rules no thanks.
I'd like some protection from regs, OpSpecs, GOM and oh yeah..a decent Chief Pilot.
There are great flight departments and bad ones. Being run by a big corporation doesn't guarantee squat.
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