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03-12-2007, 08:35 PM
#3
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I wouldn't worry too much. When somebody is paying in excess of $35,000 for a type rating, FSI is typically going to do everything they can to ensure that they make it through training... remember- they want your repeat business for recurrent (at a price tag of $15K...)
03-12-2007, 08:59 PM
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I'd echo FlyerJosh. I went through CL604 training in DFW a couple of years ago and found it much more relaxed than the 121 training i've seen. You need some FMS knowledge and the ability to learn on your own but I wasn't expected to have all the limitations and profiles memorized for the first day of class as I have for other training events. If your friend has FMS experience and puts some effort into being prepared each night, he should do fine.
03-13-2007, 08:36 PM
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He'll be fine. But;
1) It will cost a bunch more than the 35K that Josh suggests. A lot more.
2) Previous FMS experience is not required, they have a wonderful training aid.
3) Tell your buddy to stay at the Marriott River Front ... best place in the city for a schoolio.
TransMach
1) It will cost a bunch more than the 35K that Josh suggests. A lot more.
2) Previous FMS experience is not required, they have a wonderful training aid.
3) Tell your buddy to stay at the Marriott River Front ... best place in the city for a schoolio.
TransMach
03-14-2007, 05:53 AM
#6
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A few pointers for your buddy. I used to teach there in SAV. Great place.
Relax, the ground school is really good & concentrates mostly on the Planeview Cockpit. You will get all the books on day one, but the class is not a numbers regurgitation exercise so don't sweat the details. Johan & Larry teach a really good class and there are a lot of toys in the room to keep you occupied. The goal is to learn how to use this thing, not count rivets.
Gulfstream is really anal about their materials floating around, so you won't find much gouge online. FSI knows this and does not expect you to know the bird on day one. I would help you but the first thing they wanted when I left there were the manuals & disks. Footprint is 2 weeks of M-F GS followed by 7 sims (back to back, no breaks), a check ride then the EVS training sim. Starts off brisk and gets fast, so don't slack off during the first two weeks or you will be really drinking from the firehose.
Some glass experience is really helpful. Knowing the Honeywell syntax for the FMS is nice as well. There is not a lot of instruction on those areas.
You will love this bird. Honest and very powerful machine. The HUD & EVS along with autothrottles makes it a piece of cake to fly. While the avionics are best in the world, the systems are kinda dated. Don't forget to turn on the friggin aux pump each time you set the parking brake (that one made me laugh coming from the Airbus). You will also be confused about the three emergency battery switches, but it will come to you by the end.
The riverfront hotels are nice but traffic downtown is a big pain in the kazoo. If you are looking for a place closer to the sim building, FSI can hook you up with several options, just call the main number and ask the concierge desk. The gals there will take good care of you. You or your company are spending the big bucks, so let FSI take care of the details.
And enjoy the donuts :-) FSI secrets... There is one really good Starbucks coffee machine, downstairs in the client lounge. Gulfstream puts on a really good free breakfast once a week as well. Also watch out for the lunch next door. It's good, but big on carbs. You will suffer a concussion after lunch when your head hits the desk!
Enjoy!
Relax, the ground school is really good & concentrates mostly on the Planeview Cockpit. You will get all the books on day one, but the class is not a numbers regurgitation exercise so don't sweat the details. Johan & Larry teach a really good class and there are a lot of toys in the room to keep you occupied. The goal is to learn how to use this thing, not count rivets.
Gulfstream is really anal about their materials floating around, so you won't find much gouge online. FSI knows this and does not expect you to know the bird on day one. I would help you but the first thing they wanted when I left there were the manuals & disks. Footprint is 2 weeks of M-F GS followed by 7 sims (back to back, no breaks), a check ride then the EVS training sim. Starts off brisk and gets fast, so don't slack off during the first two weeks or you will be really drinking from the firehose.
Some glass experience is really helpful. Knowing the Honeywell syntax for the FMS is nice as well. There is not a lot of instruction on those areas.
You will love this bird. Honest and very powerful machine. The HUD & EVS along with autothrottles makes it a piece of cake to fly. While the avionics are best in the world, the systems are kinda dated. Don't forget to turn on the friggin aux pump each time you set the parking brake (that one made me laugh coming from the Airbus). You will also be confused about the three emergency battery switches, but it will come to you by the end.
The riverfront hotels are nice but traffic downtown is a big pain in the kazoo. If you are looking for a place closer to the sim building, FSI can hook you up with several options, just call the main number and ask the concierge desk. The gals there will take good care of you. You or your company are spending the big bucks, so let FSI take care of the details.
And enjoy the donuts :-) FSI secrets... There is one really good Starbucks coffee machine, downstairs in the client lounge. Gulfstream puts on a really good free breakfast once a week as well. Also watch out for the lunch next door. It's good, but big on carbs. You will suffer a concussion after lunch when your head hits the desk!
Enjoy!
Last edited by Fred Flintstone; 03-14-2007 at 07:40 AM. Reason: typos
03-15-2007, 04:07 AM
#7
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Stay Downtown SAV
I would suppose that your friend already has hotel reservations, but if he is not downtown and can change, he needs to stay there, near the river walk area. Having done SAV FSI many times, I can tell you that, as has previously mentioned, the training is not mind-bogglingly difficult. Yes, study every night, but there will be leisure time. Three weeks at a hotel/motel outside of town is way too long. Stay near the river area and take advantage of the great restaurants, etc. down there. Traffic?? Yes, a bit, but certainly well offset by the amenities. Enjoy one of the great smaller cities of the south, especially on St. Patrick's Day later this week--one of the biggest celebrations in the US!!
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