Global Express - First Officer Pay
12-17-2009, 12:18 PM
#61
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 320 F.O.
Posts: 1,386
Originally Posted by box-hauler
Say what you will but 3 engines beats 2 every time when crossing the water, be damed the MSP and fuel bills, course 4 is even better than 3 (see avatar) for those not in the know its a DC8-60 series.....
01-02-2010, 03:58 PM
#62
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by The dude
Ha ha ha. I was thinking the exact same thing. There's gotta be something fishy if a GLEX operator is hiring a CFI.
........but, could it be worse than flight instructing?
........but, could it be worse than flight instructing?
Originally Posted by The dude
I think the main point is being missed here. There's a big difference between a type rated guy with time-in-type and a guy who has no corporate experience that's going to have to be babysat for a year and eventually sent to school to be typed (which costs a small fortune in itself). Comparing these two is like apples and oranges and salaries would WIDELY vary. 85k for a low time guy who's gonna need a babysitter is pretty good IMHO.
I do think experienced and qualified pilots worth more and should stand for it, but to get there you have to deal with lot's of crap, at least you usually have to.
I just think there are good Global Express/Gulfstream jobs, and there are bad ones, just like everywhere, if you get an oportunity like that, and that's what they pay, I don't think you'll affect the market with it, the pilot job market depends in so many other things, like offer and demand, the kind of people who own the plane; if they don´t pay much, it 's because they pretty much will get what they pay for, especially if you are going to learn things here, rather than show them how to do things. And yes, there might be something fishy about this job; you bet, you might have to do a lot of things other than sitting down and flying, but that's what corporate aviation is all about, at least when you start.
Regards
-Gbagli
Last edited by gbagli; 01-03-2010 at 05:41 AM.
10-11-2017, 08:50 PM
#63
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 1
Ugh! BlastBoy.
Your arguments are the same idiotic arguments we've been used to listen to from newly graduated pilots for years. These pilots, happy to finally be getting a paycheck for flying are part of the problem. You are part of the problem.
You can make 85K doing almost anything else, and you would be home every night with your wife and kids. You can drive a truck carrying toilet paper from state to state and be home every weekend.
I don't mean to insult you. I only say this when I mean it.
"Idiot -
[id-ee-uh t]
noun
Informal. An utterly foolish or senseless person:
Psychology. Aperson of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25."
Sir, you may be an idiot.
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Your arguments are the same idiotic arguments we've been used to listen to from newly graduated pilots for years. These pilots, happy to finally be getting a paycheck for flying are part of the problem. You are part of the problem.
You can make 85K doing almost anything else, and you would be home every night with your wife and kids. You can drive a truck carrying toilet paper from state to state and be home every weekend.
I don't mean to insult you. I only say this when I mean it.
"Idiot -
[id-ee-uh t]
noun
Informal. An utterly foolish or senseless person:
Psychology. Aperson of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25."
Sir, you may be an idiot.
_________________________
Originally Posted by blastboy
Well now, if you want to buy a million dollar home in VNY then 85K isn't enough. If those are your goals then, yes you need to make more. I'm a loser, eh? HeHeHe. As far as I see it, you're sitting in the stands with me watching this race to the bottom in the aviation industry because what are you doing proactively to change things? Complaining? Blogging on this forum? If you are proactive in changing what you're complaining about, then maybe you'll earn my respect, but certainly not by calling anyone a "loser": An educated remark by a GV pilot, by the way.
Sure 85K is a lot for me because guess what, where I live 85K can get you a couple of houses and all the rest of the stuff that I don't really need. I don't live in VNY and I dont want to either. Look, you take your job, and I'll take mine. I see the big picture but I also know that nothing I say or do at this moment can change anything because I am in no position to do so. Until that time, 85K is going to be a lot of money for me. Maybe not you, but for me it is.
Sure 85K is a lot for me because guess what, where I live 85K can get you a couple of houses and all the rest of the stuff that I don't really need. I don't live in VNY and I dont want to either. Look, you take your job, and I'll take mine. I see the big picture but I also know that nothing I say or do at this moment can change anything because I am in no position to do so. Until that time, 85K is going to be a lot of money for me. Maybe not you, but for me it is.
10-13-2017, 04:47 PM
#65
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Left seat on a kite
Posts: 1,884
Originally Posted by Kirth
Ugh! BlastBoy.
Your arguments are the same idiotic arguments we've been used to listen to from newly graduated pilots for years. These pilots, happy to finally be getting a paycheck for flying are part of the problem. You are part of the problem.
You can make 85K doing almost anything else, and you would be home every night with your wife and kids. You can drive a truck carrying toilet paper from state to state and be home every weekend.
I don't mean to insult you. I only say this when I mean it.
"Idiot -
[id-ee-uh t]
noun
Informal. An utterly foolish or senseless person:
Psychology. Aperson of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25."
Sir, you may be an idiot.
_________________________
Your arguments are the same idiotic arguments we've been used to listen to from newly graduated pilots for years. These pilots, happy to finally be getting a paycheck for flying are part of the problem. You are part of the problem.
You can make 85K doing almost anything else, and you would be home every night with your wife and kids. You can drive a truck carrying toilet paper from state to state and be home every weekend.
I don't mean to insult you. I only say this when I mean it.
"Idiot -
[id-ee-uh t]
noun
Informal. An utterly foolish or senseless person:
Psychology. Aperson of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25."
Sir, you may be an idiot.
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10-14-2017, 05:05 AM
#66
Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Position: Large cabin Bizjet
Posts: 448
$85k to fly a Global is pathetic, but there will always be people that take that "just to fly a jet". Hopefully with the experienced pilot supply starting to dry up, these operators will start to improve their pay scales, but its going to take a while.
10-19-2017, 08:31 AM
#67
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by HwkrPlt
$85k to fly a Global is pathetic, but there will always be people that take that "just to fly a jet". Hopefully with the experienced pilot supply starting to dry up, these operators will start to improve their pay scales, but its going to take a while.
I thought we were talking washing it.
10-30-2017, 08:22 AM
#69
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: BD-700A
Posts: 210
Originally Posted by LearPilot88
Anybody have current competitive numbers for right seat in a Global 5000/6000?
10-31-2017, 01:12 PM
#70
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 310
i'm not familiar w/ Global Express operators… anyone got a list of US Global Express operators??
That just might be my dream job: flying something like that internationally.
I know most of those jobs, whether Gulfstream IV/V or Global Express, usually take knowing somebody, etc… still, worth a shot trying to track down some specific companies and get a résumé in.
That just might be my dream job: flying something like that internationally.
I know most of those jobs, whether Gulfstream IV/V or Global Express, usually take knowing somebody, etc… still, worth a shot trying to track down some specific companies and get a résumé in.
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