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Old 05-24-2017, 08:30 AM
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I have been doing a lot of research on this topic. It is really hard to find information on going about this in the aviation industry though. I was wondering how to approach my boss with a meeting without sounding like I am threatening to leave. Also, as I took on new captain duties, how to ask for a raise because of that. The amount I am going to request is partially based on my offer.


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Old 05-24-2017, 08:52 AM
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If you go down this road, you must be 100% willing to take the offer.

However, I believe it is straightforward: I like this job, and I like working for you, but I have an offer to go fly XXX airplane for XXX money. Because I like this job and like working for you, I wanted to give you an opportunity to beat their offer (note: not match).

That isn't a "threat to leave" per se, but it could be construed as such because you have made it clear you have an offer to leave and any reasonable person will understand that you asking him to beat your offer is tantamount to "If you don't, I'm out."

Because that's exactly what it is and should be.

As for a raise for being PIC...PIC has legal responsibility per FARs and should be compensated for that responsibility. If your boss doesn't understand that - in this pilot hiring environment of all things - you should vote with your feet.
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
If you go down this road, you must be 100% willing to take the offer.

However, I believe it is straightforward: I like this job, and I like working for you, but I have an offer to go fly XXX airplane for XXX money. Because I like this job and like working for you, I wanted to give you an opportunity to beat their offer (note: not match).

That isn't a "threat to leave" per se, but it could be construed as such because you have made it clear you have an offer to leave and any reasonable person will understand that you asking him to beat your offer is tantamount to "If you don't, I'm out."

Because that's exactly what it is and should be.

As for a raise for being PIC...PIC has legal responsibility per FARs and should be compensated for that responsibility. If your boss doesn't understand that - in this pilot hiring environment of all things - you should vote with your feet.
Dittos...BoilerUp is right on.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:10 PM
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Hey Lear333, How'd the convo go with your boss? I'm in the same situation.
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SGALLO View Post
Hey Lear333, How'd the convo go with your boss? I'm in the same situation.
The current boss did not match and said he could hire cheaper, job offer fell through cause someone said he could do it for the second income. 😂
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:20 AM
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The current boss did not match and said he could hire cheaper, job offer fell through cause someone said he could do it for the second income. 😂
Where in South Florida do you live?
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot0987 View Post
The current boss did not match and said he could hire cheaper, job offer fell through cause someone said he could do it for the second income. 😂
That's a bummer.. so you ended up staying with your current employer?
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SGALLO View Post
That's a bummer.. so you ended up staying with your current employer?
Hahaha it was a joke man
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SGALLO View Post
That's a bummer.. so you ended up staying with your current employer?
Look at who originated the thread.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:14 PM
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Look at who originated the thread.
How do you know it's a joke? I could not imagine anyone posting any joke question. This place is for pilots helping pilots. Not a waste of time joke!
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