Beechjet400A
Hey guys what are some pros and cons of the beechjet ?
And also Things to watch out for |
Pros---none
Cons---many Watch out for your cornhole. |
You can’t lift a wing with a spoiler.
Also, they’ve had a propensity to have engines flame out at altitude. Otherwise - 400As are largely 15-20 year old light jets with no better than average runway, climb, and altitude performance. Easy jet to fly, not as forgiving as a 500/525 series Citation but it doesn’t tend to bite either. |
Think the flameouts were due to getting fuel without the additive(prist) and the fuel feezing at the filter
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Personally that’s the only jet I’ve flown that I never truly felt comfortable in. Like others stated - easy to fly, marginal performance, with little engines known to flame out in the clouds at altitude.
Glad to have that experience behind me. |
The yaw damper. On = truck. Off = whole new ballgame.
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Originally Posted by starkutt1
(Post 2509879)
Hey guys what are some pros and cons of the beechjet ?
And also Things to watch out for |
[QUOTE=8pack;2510089]Compared to what? What is the mission? Are you buying or just looking at it from a pilot’s stand point?[/QUO
Looking from a pilot standpoint |
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Originally Posted by 8pack
(Post 2510089)
Compared to what? What is the mission? Are you buying or just looking at it from a pilot’s stand point?[/QUO
Looking from a pilot standpoint |
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Originally Posted by starkutt1
(Post 2510503)
From a pilot stand point my opinion is, the airplane is a good older airframe that flys well and if the job gets you what you want/need pay/time I wouldn’t turn it down bases on the type. The BE-400 has been a very popular charter/corporate airframe for years. |
Does ok with 2-4 pax on a 2-2.5 hour leg. Fill 6 or 7 seats and you’ll have less range and may also run out of space in the cargo compartment if they’re all bringing luggage. Usually does ok with 5000 ft of runway (but may need more if it’s wet). High/hot is not good. In Denver we start getting weight limited above 18*C, just for basic AFM engine-out climb. Add non-standard climb gradients or Special Departure Procedures for terrain (Aspen, Eagle) and it’s even worse. But...for small pax loads and short legs to decent sized runways, it’s a nice little jet.
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She is a tough built bird, fun to fly, dependable, some quirks but all planes do. She is a momentum plane, at altitude shallow climbs will keep u at redline speed. Best turbulence handler I’ve flown yet
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Originally Posted by sinsilvia666
(Post 2511702)
She is a tough built bird, fun to fly, dependable, some quirks but all planes do. She is a momentum plane, at altitude shallow climbs will keep u at redline speed. Best turbulence handler I’ve flown yet
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Originally Posted by Mox Nix
(Post 2510769)
Does ok with 2-4 pax on a 2-2.5 hour leg. Fill 6 or 7 seats and you’ll have less range and may also run out of space in the cargo compartment if they’re all bringing luggage. Usually does ok with 5000 ft of runway (but may need more if it’s wet). High/hot is not good. In Denver we start getting weight limited above 18*C, just for basic AFM engine-out climb. Add non-standard climb gradients or Special Departure Procedures for terrain (Aspen, Eagle) and it’s even worse. But...for small pax loads and short legs to decent sized runways, it’s a nice little jet.
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BE400xti Question
Quick question. I had been flying the Nextan for almost a year. No discomfort in my ears or pax ears at all. Then they hired a new Captain and problems started. He blames the “bumps” on the pressurization system. I do not know if it is him creating the problem or is a valve issue. Any help will be appreciated
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Originally Posted by Condor73
(Post 3185513)
Quick question. I had been flying the Nextan for almost a year. No discomfort in my ears or pax ears at all. Then they hired a new Captain and problems started. He blames the “bumps” on the pressurization system. I do not know if it is him creating the problem or is a valve issue. Any help will be appreciated
I think the best thing you can do is to take your phone, record all the settings in flight, and then how the cabin climb and cabin altitude gauges change with the phases of flight. Go show that to the Mx guy. If there is a Mx issue, watch out for annunciatiors in the near future... |
In so far as the pressure bumps; ask if they are getting a L or R bleed air source fail (specific to the XTs) the checklist has them turn the bleeds to the non offending bleed to see if there is a difference in cabin pressure. It seems to likely be an indication issue at least in the ones we were flying.
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It has been a long time since I flew one, but I remember issues with the tail heat. It consists of electrical heating mats. If you have an issue with it and landing in icing conditions, you need to find a long runway and land flaps first notch (I think 10 degrees). This is due to longitudinal stability issues.
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Originally Posted by Flugkapitan
(Post 3186702)
I'm not 100% sure how this would be a CA issue. You should talk with a Beechcraft maintenance tech before taking anything specific from the forum. Have a discussion with them about at what altitude and when are you setting the cabin controller on climb and descent. Do you have the pressure controller set to auto or manual? Where is the manual controller knob set? Where is the cabin pressure source knob set (Both Norm)?
I think the best thing you can do is to take your phone, record all the settings in flight, and then how the cabin climb and cabin altitude gauges change with the phases of flight. Go show that to the Mx guy. If there is a Mx issue, watch out for annunciatiors in the near future... Thank you for the reply. I spoke with two Beechjet maintenance technicians and both told me it was probably the Captain creating the pressurization issues and making everyone uncomfortable on that plane. They did not rule out the plane having issues since it is an old plane. Concerning switches and settings they are always in the correct positions as per checklist. No issues on that area. Recording on your phone while you are flying if not illegal is stupid; specifically during the landing phase. ...at the end the Captain got scared of the plane and ended up quitting. |
Originally Posted by BD100
(Post 3188836)
It has been a long time since I flew one, but I remember issues with the tail heat. It consists of electrical heating mats. If you have an issue with it and landing in icing conditions, you need to find a long runway and land flaps first notch (I think 10 degrees). This is due to longitudinal stability issues.
Concerning the captain. He will get a big bill for not finishing his contract. Unfortunately these kind of people are the ones that screw other pilots. We used to have a fair contract training before this DB after this DB probably we won’t anymore. |
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