Phenom 100 300 takeoff landing dist
04-14-2018, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimo
Looks like if I go to 800lbs fuel it works out? My mission is only 30min on a bad day. Not xcountry or anything even close.
04-14-2018, 01:26 PM
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What’s min takeoff fuel on a 100/300?
As far as unporting of fuel pumps/pickups and the like?
Wouldn’t want to be rolling and getting a low fuel or low fuel pressure annunciation.
Legal or not, 2500’ seems to be pushing the boundaries of stupid.
If they’ve got the money for that kind of airplane they’ve got the money to extend the runway by 1000’.
Don’t forget wet/damp runway conditions.
A handful of Phenoms have gone off the end of a wet runway already.
As far as unporting of fuel pumps/pickups and the like?
Wouldn’t want to be rolling and getting a low fuel or low fuel pressure annunciation.
Legal or not, 2500’ seems to be pushing the boundaries of stupid.
If they’ve got the money for that kind of airplane they’ve got the money to extend the runway by 1000’.
Don’t forget wet/damp runway conditions.
A handful of Phenoms have gone off the end of a wet runway already.
04-14-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Hard to understand why that mission needs a jet. That has PC12 written all over it.
04-14-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimo
Little thing called water and a big thing called out of glide distance. Wouldn't want the FAA metermaids on this forum have something else to tell me I'm doing wrong. It's an overseas project on islands but all of the airports are within 10mins. So to get back to what I originally asked about it looks like the 800lbs pencils out to a 2500ft runway. I'm sorry you guys are so emotional and want to call everyone stupid but it only makes you guys look silly.
Run the numbers for PC12, it glides better than you think. Easy to live with 135.183.
04-14-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimo
Little thing called water and a big thing called out of glide distance. Wouldn't want the FAA metermaids on this forum have something else to tell me I'm doing wrong. It's an overseas project on islands but all of the airports are within 10mins. So to get back to what I originally asked about it looks like the 800lbs pencils out to a 2500ft runway. I'm sorry you guys are so emotional and want to call everyone stupid but it only makes you guys look silly.
04-14-2018, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
800lbs pencils out a legal way to operate there. You literally have to declare fuel emergency the moment you rotate.
Run the numbers for PC12, it glides better than you think. Easy to live with 135.183.
Run the numbers for PC12, it glides better than you think. Easy to live with 135.183.
04-14-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimo
Looks like if I go to 800lbs fuel it works out? My mission is only 30min on a bad day. Not xcountry or anything even close.
Embraer performance numbers don’t support your thoughts.
I’ve been trying to atttach a pic of the perf tables but the site is having problems.
What airport are you trying to operate out of?
A 2500ft strip most likely won’t support the weight of the empty 300
I can’t say it enough.....this is not a smart nor safe idea that you’re pushing.
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