Gulfstream G-IV SIC
06-21-2018, 06:34 PM
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06-21-2018, 07:05 PM
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For domestic ops, no SIC rating required, but you must meet the ground and flight training requirements of 61.55 annually.
61.55 Second-in-command qualifications.
(a) A person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second-in-command pilot flight crewmember only if that person holds:
(1) At least a private pilot certificate with the appropriate category and class rating; and
(2) An instrument rating or privilege that applies to the aircraft being flown if the flight is under IFR; and
(3) At least a pilot type rating for the aircraft being flown unless the flight will be conducted as domestic flight operations within the United States airspace.
(b) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second-in-command unless that person has within the previous 12 calendar months:
(1) Become familiar with the following information for the specific type aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested -
(i) Operational procedures applicable to the powerplant, equipment, and systems.
(ii) Performance specifications and limitations.
(iii) Normal, abnormal, and emergency operating procedures.
(iv) Flight manual.
(v) Placards and markings.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, performed and logged pilot time in the type of aircraft or in a flight simulator that represents the type of aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested, which includes -
(i) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop as the sole manipulator of the flight controls;
(ii) Engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and
(iii) Crew resource management training.
So, no you can’t jump in the plane and operate as a SIC.
GF
61.55 Second-in-command qualifications.
(a) A person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second-in-command pilot flight crewmember only if that person holds:
(1) At least a private pilot certificate with the appropriate category and class rating; and
(2) An instrument rating or privilege that applies to the aircraft being flown if the flight is under IFR; and
(3) At least a pilot type rating for the aircraft being flown unless the flight will be conducted as domestic flight operations within the United States airspace.
(b) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second-in-command unless that person has within the previous 12 calendar months:
(1) Become familiar with the following information for the specific type aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested -
(i) Operational procedures applicable to the powerplant, equipment, and systems.
(ii) Performance specifications and limitations.
(iii) Normal, abnormal, and emergency operating procedures.
(iv) Flight manual.
(v) Placards and markings.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, performed and logged pilot time in the type of aircraft or in a flight simulator that represents the type of aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested, which includes -
(i) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop as the sole manipulator of the flight controls;
(ii) Engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and
(iii) Crew resource management training.
So, no you can’t jump in the plane and operate as a SIC.
GF
06-30-2018, 07:00 AM
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 80
Yeah. It's legal.
To summarize part 61:
You need 3 landings as sole manipulator and don't forget that you have to also maneuver a bit with an engine out. (Most people blow off that last part)
You also need familiarization on the airplane systems and limits. So basically read the AFM.
Now have the check pilot endorse your logbook. You can take the endorsement to your FSDO for an official ICAO-accepted type rating so you can leave the country.
At that point, you are now legal to fly as SIC.
I want to point out that a responsible company should send you to formal simulator training with the PIC at his/her next recurrent. IMHO the above rules should be used as a patch to get you in the door until they can synchronize your recurrent with the PICs.
To summarize part 61:
You need 3 landings as sole manipulator and don't forget that you have to also maneuver a bit with an engine out. (Most people blow off that last part)
You also need familiarization on the airplane systems and limits. So basically read the AFM.
Now have the check pilot endorse your logbook. You can take the endorsement to your FSDO for an official ICAO-accepted type rating so you can leave the country.
At that point, you are now legal to fly as SIC.
I want to point out that a responsible company should send you to formal simulator training with the PIC at his/her next recurrent. IMHO the above rules should be used as a patch to get you in the door until they can synchronize your recurrent with the PICs.
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