Making a schedule: QOL
09-07-2018, 05:08 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Fookz92
True! I never considered myself the airline type of guy. I like being more personable with the pax and always going to new destinations. Not operating like a machine flying another machine. Im at 2500TT. Just sent my app in the AA tonight just as a long shot. Would be nice to skip the regionals since I would take a major pay cut. But its beginning to come onto my radar because you are correct.... I DONT need to put up with this.
I'd also not rule out regionals that have DEC possibilities, or very short (less than 6 month) upgrades for those with eligible time (which it sounds like you do).
09-07-2018, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
I'm not knocking you guys personally, but WHY would anyone put up with such nonsense when the airlines are hiring like gangbusters??
This is the best pilots market we've had in DECADES! WHY tolerate this?
Sure, maybe it'd be hard to get on with one of the "big 3" immediatly, but worse case, certainly one of the LCC's like Spirit or even JB would scoop you up in a heartbeat I'd imagine
This is the best pilots market we've had in DECADES! WHY tolerate this?
Sure, maybe it'd be hard to get on with one of the "big 3" immediatly, but worse case, certainly one of the LCC's like Spirit or even JB would scoop you up in a heartbeat I'd imagine
I've got 3500 TT, past 121 experience, and a fair amount of Turbine PIC, thinking about applying with the LCC's and some of the better regionals, though I'd hate to take that pay cut
09-07-2018, 07:43 AM
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I generally advocate not burning bridges, but in this case I'd say screw that contract. Most of them are not worth the paper they're written on. And if they're running an operation that's "illegal" in terms of 135 rest rules anyway, I'm pretty sure they'd not want to bring in a bright light in terms of a bunch of legal action so would probably just be happy to let you slip out the door.
As was stated above, cast a wide net with your apps, you'll get some traction somewhere.
As was stated above, cast a wide net with your apps, you'll get some traction somewhere.
09-07-2018, 12:16 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by kevair464
I'm unfortunately only 5 months in to a 12 month training contract, so unless I can find a Regional that will pay off whats left of what I owe, I'm stuck till April of next year
I've got 3500 TT, past 121 experience, and a fair amount of Turbine PIC, thinking about applying with the LCC's and some of the better regionals, though I'd hate to take that pay cut
I've got 3500 TT, past 121 experience, and a fair amount of Turbine PIC, thinking about applying with the LCC's and some of the better regionals, though I'd hate to take that pay cut
On another note that regional pay cut hurts. Just looked over at piedmonts forum on here.... 8 year flow through.
10 month back for training. No way.... go for the big boys or go home.
11-30-2018, 05:31 AM
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Pilot Shortage Is Real and Getting Worse | NBAA 2018 content from Aviation Week
The same story over and over at this point it's like a broken record. Corporate flight departments wondering where they are gonna get people.
This is so simple it should be embarrassing. Pay what the airlines pay and give a schedule. So 1 week on, one week off Netjets and others already do it so it's not some new phenomenon.
Then Pay like the airlines so 300k a year and then nobody will leave.
Until then lets write some more articles about why people are leaving $150,000 a year jobs while being treated like slaves to take jobs making $300,000 and being treated like humans with time off to spend with their family.
"Gee Mr. VP of aviation I just can't understand why they all keep leaving?"
"Well Mr. CEO me neither I mean we let them stay in $100 a night hotels when we go to New York......"
Simplest problem with the simplest solution and the longer all these companies wait to get on board with the solution the worse the problem gets because the smaller the pool will be and the more it will cost them.
The same story over and over at this point it's like a broken record. Corporate flight departments wondering where they are gonna get people.
This is so simple it should be embarrassing. Pay what the airlines pay and give a schedule. So 1 week on, one week off Netjets and others already do it so it's not some new phenomenon.
Then Pay like the airlines so 300k a year and then nobody will leave.
Until then lets write some more articles about why people are leaving $150,000 a year jobs while being treated like slaves to take jobs making $300,000 and being treated like humans with time off to spend with their family.
"Gee Mr. VP of aviation I just can't understand why they all keep leaving?"
"Well Mr. CEO me neither I mean we let them stay in $100 a night hotels when we go to New York......"
Simplest problem with the simplest solution and the longer all these companies wait to get on board with the solution the worse the problem gets because the smaller the pool will be and the more it will cost them.
11-30-2018, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by billsaw
Pilot Shortage Is Real and Getting Worse | NBAA 2018 content from Aviation Week
The same story over and over at this point it's like a broken record. Corporate flight departments wondering where they are gonna get people.
This is so simple it should be embarrassing. Pay what the airlines pay and give a schedule. So 1 week on, one week off Netjets and others already do it so it's not some new phenomenon.
Then Pay like the airlines so 300k a year and then nobody will leave.
Until then lets write some more articles about why people are leaving $150,000 a year jobs while being treated like slaves to take jobs making $300,000 and being treated like humans with time off to spend with their family.
"Gee Mr. VP of aviation I just can't understand why they all keep leaving?"
"Well Mr. CEO me neither I mean we let them stay in $100 a night hotels when we go to New York......"
Simplest problem with the simplest solution and the longer all these companies wait to get on board with the solution the worse the problem gets because the smaller the pool will be and the more it will cost them.
The same story over and over at this point it's like a broken record. Corporate flight departments wondering where they are gonna get people.
This is so simple it should be embarrassing. Pay what the airlines pay and give a schedule. So 1 week on, one week off Netjets and others already do it so it's not some new phenomenon.
Then Pay like the airlines so 300k a year and then nobody will leave.
Until then lets write some more articles about why people are leaving $150,000 a year jobs while being treated like slaves to take jobs making $300,000 and being treated like humans with time off to spend with their family.
"Gee Mr. VP of aviation I just can't understand why they all keep leaving?"
"Well Mr. CEO me neither I mean we let them stay in $100 a night hotels when we go to New York......"
Simplest problem with the simplest solution and the longer all these companies wait to get on board with the solution the worse the problem gets because the smaller the pool will be and the more it will cost them.
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