Challenger 605 EGE performance?
 

Hello all you 604 and 605 pilots out there. Our boss is looking at replacing our Citation X for a Challenger 300 or a 605. We operate out of Eagle, Colorado a lot and I'm wondering if any of you can speak to how the 605 does out of EGE. We usually only have 2 pax and the farthest we fly is EGE to PBI. We also fly out of Eagle in the summer occasionally. Thanks in advance for any insight.

Piece of cake nothing to worry about at eagle, they fly the 757 in there, I believe you can take off at gross weight out of there too been a while since I looked at the book

Thanks Jeff!

Anybody know of any reason to get a 300 and not a 650?

I’d get an APG done on EGE, first. You can make KHPN out of KASE and KBDL out of Rifle in the summer, I’ve done it. Should be ok, but do good research.

The 300 climbs to F410 and above all the time, the 604/605 only do F410 and that only at about 10,000 of fuel and pax. Better cabin in the 604/605.

GF

I can’t speak for the challenger, and I’m sure it will be fine in EGE, but I wouldn’t try and compare it to the 757. The 757 is probably the best performing airliner, with an insane amount of power and power reserves. However, I have flown the CRJ700 out of EGE, and fully loaded, it’s a dog!

I have flown a 604 out of there quite a bit. You are extremely limited in the summer. The magic weight seems to be about 37000 pounds TOW and you aren't making it very far at that.

Thank you GF, Skyhawk and Bkey! We are managed by Jet Aviation and they are running numbers for us but I always like to hear what the pilots that have actually flown it think.

I flew both pretty extensively, both domestic and international. The 300 has less redundancy in things like the single Y/D and aircon pack, so a bit less of an oceanic plane. The basic 300 is a six hour machine while the 605 is more 7+15 p, both at M.80. I’ve done 8 with 9 pax in a 604.

The 604 Nextant Fusion cockpit mod looks real nice, but lacks the bigger cabin windows of the 605. The 604/5 cabin really sells it, room wise.

Both “wake-up” and “good to bed” in 15 minutes with experience.

I was on the first fusion upgrade aircraft that it was installed, what a sweet set up, in my opinion the Mx costs are very high but a very nice comfortable ride with a 8 hour range, EGE is not a problem most likely for anywhere you want to go domestic, like I said aspen about 10k of fuel max and standard pax around 4 all around good aircraft I miss flying it some days

Awesome guys, really good to hear your opinion. Thanks very much.

Challenger 605 BUY OR STAY CLEAR.
 

Hi,
Pilots out there I urgently need your help please. So I am abit green in the private aviation sector, However we just set up a base in Lagos and we want to purchase a jet for mainly local and regional flights in Africa for our company snr. execs.

I have just come across a 2008 Challeger 605 on distress sale, Beautiful machine. We have checked out ownership etc and it all above board, We are being offered considerately below market price.
However it hasn't flown or serviced since 2016. I will be in touch with Bombardier but wanted to get a pilots opinion on this. Should the fact that it has been grounded for over 2 years be a worry?

Also anyone have an idea of ball pack figure to service and get it back in the air? I know its almost asking how long is a piece of string, but If you don't ask, you never know. Thanks in advance.

Not sure what it will cost to get it airworthy, or what it will cost to get it to the point of ferrying for all of the missed checks, however if you offer very below market value I would assume you know that money will have to be put into it, also whether it was in a hangar for 3 years makes a difference than it sitting on a ramp for corrosion. All things considered you wouldn’t make a mistake buying the machine for the right price

Hi Jeff, Thanks for your prompt reply. I am understanding this better as I just spoke to Someone at Bomberdier who has given abit more insight. however no numbers. We will be getting an inspection done by bomberdier locally.

I am going to inspect the Jet in a couple of days and will be requesting a full maintanance log. I believe it was abandoned and doubt even the minimal service has been done on it. Anything to watch out for? for those of you with experience on the Jet please?

Although you might get a good deal. Make sure there is not a 96 month inspection due on that plane. If it is you make the seller include that in the price. That is a 2 month down time at least for the 605. I manage one and that was the first thing that was done before we took delivery. Also always ask about spare wheel assembly's main and nose. On every other tire change Bombardier makes you do a complete tear down and inspection of the wheels and if they dont pass you have to replace them and they run anywhere from 20-40 thousand a piece. Make sure the brakes are in good shape, look for corrosion as previously stated. If you need any information feel free to message me and I will send you my personal email maybe I can answer some questions.

Rick

Hopefully hangared, that long outside, water intrusion is likely and can expensive to repair. Ditto the 96-month inspection. Get an experienced tech shop to do a fill pre-buy after any work required for ferry is done.

GF