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Old 06-30-2020, 09:23 PM   #41  
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Flying single pilot over the Cascades, in the middle of night with known icing conditions, and raw data. How did i get paid 1/10 of what i do now?
I think we must have had the same job! Severe icing and 2400 RVR Landing at Grant County in a BE-99 is not worth the pittance I was paid.
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Flying single pilot over the Cascades, in the middle of night with known icing conditions, and raw data. How did i get paid 1/10 of what i do now?
And an autopilot that last worked during the Carter Administration...
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And an autopilot that last worked during the Carter Administration...
Autopilot? Now we did have an RNAV on one of the birds. A KNS-80. That was the cat's meow.
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I think we must have had the same job! Severe icing and 2400 RVR Landing at Grant County in a BE-99 is not worth the pittance I was paid.
There may be some extenuating circumstances here, but I'm not so sure that I would have initiated an approach into [known] "severe icing"??? 2400 RVR is not so bad usually, but if a go-around was required for some reason, it could have become very interesting. Could be a hold or divert wasn't possible, -OR- maybe I'm just too cautious...
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Autopilot? Now we did have an RNAV on one of the birds. A KNS-80. That was the cat's meow.
Ah yes, I remember those! And Lorans. And actual NDB approaches. The only for-real NDB approach to mins I ever did, almost resulted in me landing on a road that looked surprisingly like a runway in the early morning gloom. Probably had something to do with the 30-degree crab angle required to hold the final approach course. Good times...
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I’m flying Part 91 Globals now and have had at least one 121 buddy ask about jumping to our department if he got furlough from American. Our director is huge on loyalty and flat out will not hire, train and pay a furloughed 121 bubba who’d likely leave when recalled. Safe to say the mindset is “If you weren’t looking to work here when the airlines were going gang busters, than this really isn’t the place for you.”


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I’m flying Part 91 Globals now and have had at least one 121 buddy ask about jumping to our department if he got furlough from American. Our director is huge on loyalty and flat out will not hire, train and pay a furloughed 121 bubba who’d likely leave when recalled. Safe to say the mindset is “If you weren’t looking to work here when the airlines were going gang busters, than this really isn’t the place for you.”
I'd imagine that attitude is not uncommon, and I certainly understand it.
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I’m flying Part 91 Globals now and have had at least one 121 buddy ask about jumping to our department if he got furlough from American. Our director is huge on loyalty and flat out will not hire, train and pay a furloughed 121 bubba who’d likely leave when recalled. Safe to say the mindset is “If you weren’t looking to work here when the airlines were going gang busters, than this really isn’t the place for you.”


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Bingo. If you truly want the job, be prepared to resign from your 121 carrier. And please don’t come back with, “If it were a great place to work, I shouldn’t have to.”
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If it was a great place to work then I shouldn’t have to.
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Having flown corporate and 135 it’s sad to still see the “pilots are a dime a dozen” mindset. I’ve flown CEOs and their families. Sadly, corporate pilots who literally control their passengers’ fate are rarely respected, appreciated, and recognized for their skills. Instead, the corporate culture dominates where it’s more important to be a “team player” and “yes man” than it is to make the right/tough call without fear of losing your job. That worked out well for Kobe Bryant and his family, didn’t it?

Speaking from experience, airline training is far superior to corporate. Airline CRM is light years ahead. I hear the “gear up and shut up” attitude is still alive and well at the corporate level. Airline training must be superior for one simple reason. Optics. No one will hear about the Gulfstream that smacks into a mountainside halfway around the world. In contrast, the whole world would hear about it if was a US passenger jet.
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